vikipeediya vaarta:kya aap jaante hain

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--mitul 01:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

kaarya suchi me ham un kaaryo ko sammilit kar suchibddh karege jinhe hame jald pura karna hai .

Can you please change patanyajali ne paanini ke ashtaadhyaayi par apni tippani likhi jise mahaabhaashya ka naam diya (maha+bhaashya(sameeksha,tippani,vivechana,aalochna)) . to patanjali ne paanini ke ashtaadhyaayi par apni tippani likhi jise mahaabhaashya ka naam diya (maha + bhaashya - sameeksha, tippani, vivechana, aalochna). or something. It may look nicer. --Wolf 15:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

good point.. done... --mitul 17:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Erm, nothing happened it seems. Please would you replace the last KAJH with patanjali ne paanini ke ashtaadhyaayi par apni tippani likhi jise mahaabhaashya ka naam diya (maha + bhaashya - sameeksha, tippani, vivechana, aalochna). Thank you. --Wolf 17:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

done.. --mitul 09:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

kya aap jaante hai 26 March 2007 ko hindi saahityakaar mahaadevi varma ki 100veen jayanti hai. unka janm 26 March 1907 ko hua tha. yeh varsh unke jayanti varsh ke roop mein bhi manaaya ja raha hai. poornima varman 09:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Bhagwan hanumaan ke ek vishesh mandir tak jo madhya pradesh ke saaainver, naamak sthaan par sthit hai. is mandir ki khaasiyat yeh hai ki ismein hanumaanaji ki ulati moorti sthaapit hai. aur isi vajah se yeh mandir ulate hanumaan ke naam se maalava kshetr mein prasiddh hai.--aasheesh bhatanaagar^sandesh 18:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

• desh ka sabse bada rasoighar puri ke prasidhd jagannaath mandir, puri ka hai . yahaan Bhagwan jagannaath ko mahaaprasaad jise abdha kaha jaata hai, chadhaane ke liye takareeban 500 khaanasaamein lage hain . 56 vibhinn prakaar pe mahaaprasaad chadhaane ke liye 300 helpar in khaanasaamon ki madad karte hain .--aasheesh bhatanaagar^sandesh 04:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• Bhaarat ke raashtrapati, un kakshon mein naheen rahate, jahaan vaaisarauya rahate the, balki ve paahuna kaksh mein rahate hain. pratham bhaarateeya Governor general shri.si.raajagopaalaachaarya ko svaami shayan kaksh, apni vineet namr ruchiyon ke kaaran, ati aadambarik laga. unke uparaant sabhi raashtrapatiyon ne yahi parampara nibhaai.
• Bhaarat ka raashtrapati bhavan, vishv ke kisi bhi raashtrapati aavaas se kaheen bada hai.
• yahaan ki gulaab vaatika, jo ki mugal udyaan ka ek ansh hai, mein anekon prakaar ke gulaab lage hain, jo ki jan saadhaaran hetu, prati varsh February maah ke dauraan khulati hai.
• is bhavan ke nirmaan mein lohe ka naganya prayog hua hai.
• is praasaad/mahal mein 340 kaksh hain.
• prasiddh hindi film fana ke gaane mera des rangeela ki shooting, uske rehearsal sahit yaheen hui thi.--aasheesh bhatanaagar^sandesh 04:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

lekh: di N A fingar printing

1. maanav ki koshika ke di N A ki kul lanbaai lagbhag chh: feet hoti hai.
2. aayu ke saath vyakti ke di N A mein koi badlaav naheen aata hai. at: janm se mrutyu paryant di N A ek sa hi rahata hai.
3. ek vyakti ke kisi bhi ootak ki kisi bhi koshika se liya gaya di N A ek hi prakaar ki di N A fingar printing pratichitr pradarshit karta hai.
4. saamoohik balaatkaar ki ghataana mein sammilit har balaatkaari ki pehchaan di N A fingar printing dvaara alag-alag ki ja sakti hai.
5. Britain, Canada, New Zealand aur Australia ne aapne desh mein pravesh ke liye di N A fingar printing ko anivaarya bana diya hai.

--aasheesh bhatanaagar^sandesh 17:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

is samay "kya aap jaante hain" mein adyatan karne ke liye teen kaarya karne padte hain:

1. saaaincha:kya aap jaante hain mein huk hataana/jodna
2. saaaincha:kya aap jaante hai poorv mein hataaya gaya huk jodna
3. vikipeediya:kyaa_aapa_jaanate_hai(poorv-pradarshit) mein hataaya gaya huk jodna

yeh prakriya kheenchi hui hai aur ise chhota kiya ja sakta hai. adhiktam do jagah badlaav karna kaafi hona chaahiye. iske liye yadi saaaincha:kya aap jaante hain ko sadasya:Siddhartha Ghai/sandbox5 ke samaan kar diya jaae (arthaat nae bane up-saaainche saaaincha:kya aap jaante hain/svaroop ka prayog kiya jaae) to aisa sambhav hai. isse badlaav keval saaaincha:kya aap jaante hain aur vikipeediya:kyaa_aapa_jaanate_hai(poorv-pradarshit) mein karna hoga, aur saaaincha:kya aap jaante hai poorv beech mein se hat jaaega. yeh mukhaprushth par laagoo hokar sadasya:Siddhartha Ghai/sandbox4 jaisa dikhega.

is parivartan se pehle jo ek adhik div element judta tha vah naheen judega (nesting ek star kam hogi) aur dikhaai dene mein keval yeh frk aaega ki chaaron taraf se 0.1em ki padding hat jaaegi. mere vichaar se yeh cheejein anaavashyak hain, parantu yadi aavashyak hon to nae saaainche mein ise bhi joda ja sakta hai.

iske atirikt, is samay puraalekh kisi vyyaavasthit tareeke se naheen rakhe gaye hain. unhein bhi vyavasthit hona chaahiye. ham iske liye vikipeediya:kyaa_aapa_jaanate_hai(poorv-pradarshit) ko vikipeediya:kya aap jaante hain/puraalekh par sthaanaantarit kar sakte hain. tadpashchaat puraalekh varshaanusaar rakhe ja sakte hain, jaise vikipeediya:kya aap jaante hain/puraalekh/2012. puraane vaalon ko vikipeediya:kya aap jaante hain/puraalekh/2011 tak mein daala ja sakta hai. puraalekhon mein alag-alag huk vartamaan tareeke, arthaat mukhaprushth se hataae jaane ki tithi anusaar rakhe ja sakte hain. aise mein unhein hataaya hua tab maana jaana chaahiye jab ve poorv-pradarshit se bhi hat jaaeain.

saath hi saath, lekhon ke vaarta prushthon par jo saaaincha:kyaasanvaad joda jaata hai, usamein parivartan karna chaahiye taaki vah varsh-anusaar lekhon ko shreni:kya aap jaante hain - varsh mein vargeekrut kare. isse mukhaprushth par haal mein dekhe gaye vishyon par aasaani se jaankaari jutaai ja sakegi taaki jis vishay par haal mein kuchh na dikhaaya gaya ho unhein jodne ki koshish ki jaae. saath hi saath yeh jaankaari staitistiks ke liye bhi achhi rahegi.

ispar anya sadasyon ke vichaaron ka svaagat hai.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 12:05, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

koding se sambandhit parivartan bahut sookshm hai jo mukhyaprushth par koi vishesh parivartan naheen dikhaayegein, to ismein mujhe to koi aapatti naheen.

mujhe bhi yeh baat bahut baar mahsoos hui thi ki poori prakriya kashtakar hai va ise vyyaavasthit karne ki aavashyakta hai. varshaanusaar rakhana uchit hai parantu "poorv-pradarshit" mein rakhane se mujhe naheen lagta ki koi vishesh antar padta hai. mere vichaar se is anubhaag ko mukhyaprushth se hata dena chaahiye.

mujhe lagta hai ki hamein apne saaaincho mein bangaali vikipeediya ki tarah badlaav karne chaahiye, vahaaain "kya aap jaante hain" ki prakriya jeevant hai (vahaaain sakreeya sadasya hindi se kam hain, shaayad?).

siddhaarth mere vichaar se hamein anya sadasyon ko bhi "kya aap jaante hain" ki prakriya mein shaamil karna chaahiye. iske liye hamein aadhaarbhoot se kaam karna padega, jaise saaaincho mein badlaav, inmein ham angreji vikipeediya ki tarah tathya ko bhi jod sakte hain va varsh ka link "vikipeediya:kya aap jaante hain/puraalekh/2012" ka de sakte hain, naamaankan prakriya ke alag se saaainche bana sakte hain jisse sadasyon ko vyarth mein itne vishaal prushth par sampaadan na karna pade. aise kai badlaav karke ham hindi vikipeediya pe bhi anya bhaarateeya bhaashaaon ke safal vikipeediya (malayalam, tamil, bangaali) ki tarah "kya aap jaante hain" ko or adhik jeevant kar sakte hain.

is prasang se alag, parantu mujhe lagta hai ki mukhaprushth ke samaachaar vibhaag par bhi dhyaan dene ki aavashyakta hai, vichaar?<>< Bill william compton^Talk 17:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

haaain, prakriya abhi bhi lambi aur mushkil hai. ise sudhaara ja sakta hai.

aapne kaha varshaanusaar rakhana uchit hai parantu "poorv-pradarshit" mein rakhane se mujhe naheen lagta ki koi vishesh antar padta hai. mere vichaar se is anubhaag ko mukhyaprushth se hata dena chaahiye.

kya aap taatparya batanon se dikhne vaale taib se tha ya neeche dikhne vaale link se? yadyapi donon hi sooraton mein vichaar mein koi buraai naheen, bas mukhaprushth ke baaki bhaagon se taal-mel kuchh gadbad hota hai (baakiyon mein kadiyaaain bhi hain aur taib bhi).

haaain hamein is prakriya ko aasaan banaana chaahiye taaki aur sadasya bhi ismein aasaani se bhaag le sakein. iske liye saaainchon sahit ek html form shaayad theek rahegi. mere vichaar se hamein aisi kadiyaaain banaani chaahiyein jinse bhaag sheershak aur naamaankan saaaincha apne-aap edit vindo mein lod hokar aaeainge.

What I think will constitute an easy method: Have a substable template. Make a searchbox thingy with one input for articlename and a go button. Pressing the button leads you to the editpage with the heading and the subst template prefilled. All you have to do before saving is to add the hook. Plus, if this is done, we should probably have a subpage for nominations.

haaain samaachaar bhaag bhi theek rakhane ki aavashyakta hai, par us kaam ke liye shaayad anya sadasyon ke yogadaan ki aavashyakta ho (mere bas ka rog naheen hai).--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 19:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

yadi kisi sadasya ko aapatti na ho to filhaal jo badlaav sujhaae the ve kar dooain. aur saralata laane vaale kaam fir kabhi bhi kiya ja sakta hain (haaain agar koi sadasya abhi kar raha ho to ruka ja sakta hai, naheen to jo saralata abhi laai ja sake utani to le hi aaeain)--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 20:18, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

kya aap jaante hain mein parivartan ki aniyamitata uske niyamon mein parivartan ki aavashyakta rekhaankit karti hai. is saaainche ke liye bane hue anek niyamon mein aur vartamaan pradarshit saachanaaon ke liye apanaae gaye niyamon mein virodhaabhaas hai isliye in niyamon ko theek kar thoda saral banaane ki jaroorat hai. saath hi hamein is saaainche ka maksad nitaant maulik shodh ko prastut karne ka uddeshya rakhane ke bajaay hindi vikiya mein nae lekhon mein prastut thodi nai jaankaari ke bahaane madhyam aakaar (200shabd ) vaale nae lekhon ko protsaahit karne ka rakhana chaahiye. 1000 shabdon vaale lekh ke liye to aaj ka aalekh hai hi. aur bade lekhon ke liye bhi pramukh lekh rakha hi gaya hai. isse nae aur achhe lekh ke nirmaan ki prakriya ko badhaava milega.

ve niyam jo badle jaane chaahiye-

• "kya aap jaante hai" ke liye lekh pichhle ek maheene ki avadhi mein bana ho.

tippani- yeh niyam tabaka hoga jabki hindi vikiya mein ban rahe lekhon ki gati aaj ki tulana mein bahut kam thi. is avadhi ko 7 din kar dena chaahiye. taaki nae lekh sachmuch nae hon.

• lekh kam se kam madhyam aakaar mein ho, kam se kam 1500 akshar hon. - koi stab (beej) lekh naheen chuna jaaega.

tippani- nyunatam shabd seema ko 200 tak kar dena chaahiye. kyonki bade aakaar vaale naye lekh kaafi kam bante hain. saath hi aadhaar waali shart hata leni chaahiye. aadhaar lekh paribhaashit naheen hai. yeh saaaincha 10 se lekar hajaar shabdon tak ke lekh par laga hai.

• aise lekh chunane ki koshish karein jo hindi vikipeediya par mool jaankaari de rahe ho, koi nakal na ho. jaroori naheen ki jaankaari rochak ho.

tippani- jaankaari srot ke saath bhi ho aur saath hi mool ho koi nakal na ho? yeh kaise sambhav hai? vikiya jnyaaanakosh hai ya shodh sansthaan? is niyam ko hata dein ya bhaasha badal dein. * kisi desh vishesh ya samudaaya vishesh jaankaari dene se bachein. hindi vikipeediya ki jaankaari vishv bhar ke vibhinn logon dvaara padhi jaati hai. kisi bhi ek samay par kisi desh vishesh ya samudaaya vishesh sambandhit 2 se zyaada tathya naheen hone chaahiye. tippani - aisa ho to behtar hai. kintu aise niyam ke kaaran saaainche ka adyatan roka naheen ja sakta hai. isliye yeh neeti ke roop mein uchit hai niyam ke roop mein naheen.

• prabandhako ko apne dvaara likhe gaye lekho ko yahaaain apne se naheen sujhaana chaahiye.

yeh bhi neeti vaakya hai. yadi ise vyavahaarik roop se apnaaya gaya to shaayad naya kuchh 6 maah baad hi joda ja sake. isliye kam-se-kam prabandhakon ko sujhaane ka adhikaar to hona chaahiye. jab sakriya sadasya ki sankhya bahut badh jaaya to ise neeti se hataakar niyam banaana chaahiye. filhaal naheen.

• badlaav jitni baar bhi zaroori hon kiye ja sakte hain. agar sambhav ho to hafte me ek baar karein. jaldi sudhaar se lekhon ko zyaada dhyaan naheen milega. adhik dinon tak lekh rakhane se jaankaari baasi ho jaaegi.

yadi ek saath parivartan karna jaroori naheen hai to ek tathya ka chayan har doosare din kiya jaana chaahiye. isse ek tathya ko 8 din rahane ka mauka bhi mil jaaega aur adyatan bhi hota rahega.

aniruddh vaarta   17:53, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

samay seema abhi iseeliye lambi hai ki sadasya ismein adyatan hetu koi prastaav naheen rakhate hain. yadi sadasya prastaav swayam rakhein to samay seema ghataane mein koi aapatti naheen hai.

is samay seema 1500 characters ki hai, shabdon ya aksharon ki naheen (arthaat, kiya ko 4 maana jaaega k + i + ya + a ) mere vichaar se ismein aur 200 shabdon shaayad koi bada frk na ho, par badlaav karne se pehle frk jaaainchana hoga.

aam taur par haal mein jo lekh naamaankit kiye gaye hain, ve (character seema ke kaaran) aadhaar swayam hi naheen hote. aadhaar ki ek moolabhoot paribhaasha vi:aakalan par hai jiske baare mein kai jagah charcha hui hai (mukhyat: uske vaarta prushth par), aap vahaaain iski paribhaasha dekh sakte hain.

mool hone ka taatparya shaayad mukhyat: yeh tha ki angreji vikipeediya (ya kisi anya vikipeediya) ki prati na bane yeh bhaag. haaain iski bhaasha mein parivartan karne ki aavashyakta hai.

prabandhak vaale niyam ko hataane ki baat se sahamat hooain, usaki jagah hona chaahiye ki aam taur par kisi prabandhak ko apna swayam diya sujhaav swayam sveekrut naheen ghoshit karna chaahiye (arthaat bina charcha ke mukhaprushth par naheen lagaana chaahiye). "aam taur par" isliye joda hai kyonki agar kai dinon mein adyatan na ho to ismein apavaad ho sakta hai.

har doosare din tathya chunane mein koi pareshaani naheen, par museebat to yeh hai ki yahaaain koi kuchh sujhaata hi naheen.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 20:07, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

aaj ravivaar ki chhutti thi isliye thoda jyaada samay vikiya ke liye nikaal paaya. kintu samaachaar adyatit karne, kya aap jaante hain sujhaane aur naye pru,th par najar rakhane ki koshish karunga. mayoor ki kami poori to naheen ho sakegi. kintu milkar kuchh theek rakhane ki koshish karte hain. ek baat aur kehna chaah raha tha ki sandarbh ke liye ve kadi shartein naheen rakhani chaahiye jo ki angreji vikipeediya par hai. arthaat yadi pustak, lekhak aur prushth ka naam ho to bhi use sandarbh ke roop mein sveekaar karna chaahiye. sanskaran, prakaashak ka naam aur aaiesabeeen bhi ho to achhi baat hai kintu iske abhaav mein bhi filhaal hamein diye gaye sandarbh ko vaidh maanana chaahiye. kyonki hindi vikiya ko jabatak itne prashikshit yogadaan karta paryaapt maatra mein naheen milte tabatak hamein thoda to oochch gunavatta ke maanadandon se samjhauta karna hi padega. kyonki kai hindi kitaabon mein to aaiesabeeen hota bhi naheen hai. aur yadi kisi lekh mein sandarbh mein kisi pustak ya vishvasaniya bevasaait ka link diya ho to use bhi sandarbh maan lena chaahiye. aur poorn shuddhi ke abhaav mein use kya aap jaante hain ke ayogya naheen maanana chaahiye. yadi isse sadasya sahamat hon to nae aalekhon mein se upayukt lekh se kisi upayukt tathya chunakar prastaavit karne ki koshish karuainga. anyatha ati uchch maanadandon ke saath to kisi ke liye bhi kuchh sujhaana mushkil hai. aniruddh vaarta 23:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

main aapki baat se sahamat hooain ki keval ISBN na hona srot ko nakaarane ki koi jaayaj vajah naheen hai kyonki hindi prakaashanon mein ISBN judana haalahi mein shuroo hua hai, pehle ki kitaabon mein (aur kuchh nai kitaabon mein bhi) yeh naheen hota. tab bhi pustak se sandarbh dete samay usaka naam, lekhak ka naam, prakaashak ka naam to sambhav hota hi hai; agar pustak mein prakaashak ka pata diya ho to usase jagah (shahar) bhi joda ja sakta hai aur agar sanskaran diya ho to saath mein varsh bhi hota hai. parantu ye sab na bhi ho to bhi srot jaayaj hota hai.

aapne jo lekh jode the unamein se ek (sohan Singh bhaakana) to do-teen laainon ka hi hai aur mukhaprushth par dikhaane laayak naheen hai. doosra lekh amarakaant lamba hai, naya hai, parantu usamein sroton ki kami hai. yadi usamein do aur srot hote (arthaat kul teen aapas mein alag srot) to vah mukhaprushth ke liye upayukt hoga mere vichaar mein. aap aise sharton jodkar use yahaaain naamaankit kar sakte hain.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 00:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

kya ham is saaainche ke tathyon ko bhi samaachaar saaainche ki tarah sandarbh sahit dene ki vyavastha kar sakte hain. aisa hone par lekh ki gunavatta kam rahane par bhi tathya ki gunavatta svat: siddh rahegi. saath hi chhote lekhon ko bi mahatva diya ja sakega. ye tathya lekh se sambaddh hain kintu apne aap mein bhi to inka astitv hai. aur iske liye samaachaar saaainche ki tarah tathya ka antarjaal par upalabdh rahana bhi jaroori naheen rahana chaahiye. haaain prakaashan se poorv usaki punarjaanch jaroor kar leni chaahiye. ise naamaankan aur samarthan ke jariye sambhav banaaya ja sakta hai. aniruddh vaarta 00:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

vyaktigat roop se mujhe samaachaar mein bhi koi bhi aisi baat jodne theek naheen lagta jo ki lekh mein na ho.

filhaal tathya ka srot seedhe lekh mein joda jaata hai aur naamaankan ke samay usaki jaaainch ki jaati hai. saaainche mein ye srot jodna abhi bhi sambhav hai, parantu yadi srot lekh mein diya hai to mere vichaar se ye anaavashyak hai.

aapki yeh baat sahi hai ki in tathyon ka lekhon ke bina bhi astitv hai, parantu mere vichaar mein mukhaprushth ke is bhaag ka uddeshya vikipeediya ke lekhon mein paae jaane vaale rochak tathyon ko saamane laana hai; jo tathya vikipeediya ke lekhon mein hain hi naheen, unhein jodne ka tark naheen banta. aur jo lekh bahut chhote hain (aadhaar hain) aur poora lekh us rochak baat mein hi simta hua hai, to aise lekhon ko mukhaprushth par dikhaana mere vichaar mein galat hoga chooainki ye itni kam gunavatta ke honge ki inhein dekh ke paathak samjheinge ki hindi vikipeediya kisi kaam ki cheej naheen hai. koi bhi paathak sampaadak tabhi banana chaaheinge agar unhein lage ki vikipeediya par kuchh achha kaam ho raha hai (yahi baat shiju ne apne vivranon mein bhi kahi hai). yadi hamein ye dikhaana hai ki hindi vikipeediya par achha kaam ho raha hai to hamein mukhaprushth par achhi gunavatta ke lekh jodne honge. aur aise lekh banaana mushkil bhi naheen hai. aap dekheinge ki mere pichhle naamaankan ek saptaah se kam samay ki avadhi mein taiyaar hue the (kuchh to 2-3 din mein bhi), aur mukhyat: akele hi banaae gaye the. at: mujhe naheen lagta ki vartamaan niyamon ko poorn karta lekh banaana koi mushkil kaarya hai, khaaskar yadi ek se adhik sampaadak mil kar banaaeain.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 07:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

abhi ki charcha va kaafi samay se vibhinn avsaron par ho rahi nae niyamon ki aavashyakta ko poora karne ka vakt aa gaya hai. main is charcha mein hindi vikipeediya ke "kya aap jaante hain" anubhaag ke liye nae niyam sujha raha hooain:-

• huk

1. huk aakaar mein 200 kairaiktar se adhik naheen hona chaahiye (kairaiktar ginte samay akshar ke varn aur maatr ko alag-alag gina jaata hai, udaahan: Bhaarat mein 3 akshar hain par 4 kairaiktar).
2. huk zaroori naheen hai ki bahut rochak ho parantu ek seemit star par rochak va samaanya star par uske tathya se nai jaankaari praapt honi chaahiye.
3. huk lekh ke andar inalaain uddharan ke saath hona chaahiye.
4. huk mein ek ya usase adhik lekh naamit kiye ja sakte hain.
5. naamit lekh huk mein bold hona chaahiye.
6. agar naamit huk 'tithi vishesh' matlab mukhyaprushth par usaka kisi vishesh tithi pe aana jaroori hai, to aisi sthiti mein samay seema, ek raashtra ke huk hone jaise niyamon ka apavaad ho sakta hai.

• lekh

1. lekh aakaar mein kam se kam 1200 kairaiktar ka hona chaahiye.
2. lekh sandarbhaheen na ho, balki usamein 5 se adhik srotaheen tathya naheen hone chaahiye.
3. lekh vikipeediya ki lekh likhne ki shaili ke anuroop hona chaahiye.
4. lekh zaroori naheen hai ki naya hi ho, parantu agar koi lekh jo pehle bhi "kya aap jaante hain" ke liye naamit ho chuka hai to vah lekh aakaar mein pehle ke mukaabale kam se kam do guna tak vistrut kiya gaya ho.

• saamaanya niyam

1. ekabaar lagaane ke baad huk kam se kam ek saptaah tak naheen hataaya jaaega.
2. teen saptaah se adhik koi bhi lekh/huk anubhaag mein naheen rahega.
3. bina kisi naamaankan ke koi lekh/huk anubhaag mein naheen lagaaya jaaega. is niyam ka apavaad neeche hai.
4. agar koi lekh/huk do saptaah se zyaada samay anubhaag mein rahata hai to us sthiti mein koi bhi prabandhak apni ichha se oopar bataae gaye "huk" aur "lekh" ke niyamon ka paalan karte hue bina kisi naamaankan ke naya huk/lekh anubhaag mein laga sakta hai.
5. kisi bhi samay do se adhik huk kisi bhi raashtra vishesh se sambandhit naheen hone chaahiye.
6. is anubhaag ko padhe, iska paalan naya huk lagaane vaale prabandhak ko karna hai.

yeh bas prastaav hai ismein avashya hi sanshodhan kiye ja sakte hain. krupaya apna mat dein va agar aapko lagta hai ki kuchh badhaane ya ghataane ki jaroorat hai to bataae, dhanyavaad.<>< Bill william compton^Talk 12:44, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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prashn evam tippani:

yahaaain spashteekaran ki aavashyakta hai, huk ki lambaai aksharon mein hai ya character mein? bill, shaayad aapko gyaat na ho, akshar aur kairaiktar mein bhi frk hai. udaaharan: kiya mein do akshar hain (ki aur ya) par chaar character(k i ya a). agar svachaalit tool ka kairaiktar ginne ke liye prayog kiya gaya to vah kairaiktar hi bataaega. meri jaankaari mein akshar bataane wala koi tool naheen hai. to niyam akshar ke anusaar hain ya kairaiktar ke?

chauthe niyam ka taatparya link karne se hai ya fir bold karne se? arthaat ek huk kya do lekhon se sambandhit banaaya ja sakta hai? agar banaaya ja sakta hai to tathya donon mein se kismein hoga?

lekh ke niyam mein bhi akshar aur kairaiktar wala prashn hai.

lekh ka doosra niyam bahut subjective hai, aur iska yeh arth bhi nikaala ja sakta hai ki poore lekh ka har tathya sandarbh sahit hona chaahiye jo ki is bhaag ke liye sambhav naheen hai, chooainki chunauti to kisi bhi baat ko di ja sakti hai. iske bajaay hamein shaayad niyam kuchh is prakaar rakhana chaahiye ki x% se adhik jaankaari srotaheen naheen honi chaahiye. yahaaain x 20-30% se adhik na ho to behtar hai (chooainki vaise hi lekh bahut chhota hota hai, usamein isse adhik saamagri ka srotaheen hone ka matlab hoga ki shaayad naamit tathya ke alaava lekh mukhyat: sroton se viheen ho.

lekh ke sandarbh mein antim niyam teen ke bajaae 2 guna hona chaahiye. chooainki samay seema hataai ja rahi hai, iska arth hoga ki bade-bade lekh bhi naamaankit ho sakte hain; aur unamein teen guna vistaar sambhav naheen hota. haaain, agar is niyam ka uddeshya aise lekhon ke naamaankan ko rokana hai, to theek hai.

paaainchave saamaanya niyam ke sandarbh mein ye bhi likhna chaahiye ki ye 2 kitne mein se honge. yadyapi vartamaan prushth kehta hai ki mukhaprushth par ek samay mein 4 huk deehai jaaeainge, ham abhi 6 dikha rahe hain. ye do chaar mein se honge ya 6 mein se? aur do saptaah ke andar huk hataane ka matlab hai ki saptaah mein do baar is bhaag ka adyatan karna hoga. aisa ho to behtar hai, parantu vartamaan sthiti mein iske koi aasaar naheen nazar aate.

--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 13:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

kairaiktar hi hain, mujhe kairaiktar ka hindi arth naheen pata tha. Google ne kairaiktar ka akshar hi bataaya.

bold aur link donon. tathya kisi ek lekh mein bhi ho sakta hai, sabhi sujhaaye gaye lekhon ke andar bhi sakta hai va sabhi lekhon mein bhaagon mein bata bhi ho sakta hai. udaaharan ke liye:

• ... that Afghanistan, Burma, India, Pakistan, and Philippines were the first five members of the Asian Games Federation? yeh mera angreji vikipeediya pe banaaya huk hai, ismein tathya sabhi lekhon ko mila ke banta hai.

oopar spashteekaran de diya hai.

chunauti dene ka arth yeh naheen ki agar kisi lekh ke andar likha hai ki "ameriki raashtpati do din ke Colorado springs ke daur pe gaye" to Obama ke ameriki raashtpati hone ke liye bhi sandarbh dena padega parantu is tathya ke liye ki Obama sachch mein Colorado springs gaye the iske liye sandarbh chaahiye hi chooainki agar ham aise tathyon ka bhi apavaad banaaeainge to yeh vikipeediya ki satyasaadhaneeyata niti ke virooddh hoga aur jab koi lekh vikipeediya ke mool neetiyon ka hi paalan naheen karta to ham kaise us lekh ko vikipeediya ke mukhaprushth par laga sakte hain? aise to ham nae sadasyon se aasha bhi kar sakte ki vo vikipeediya ki mool neetiyon ka paalan karein.

2 guna theek hai.

teen uchit hai?

siddhaarth, krupaya in sujhaavon mein uchit badlaav kar dein jisse kisi aur sadasya ko samajhne mein kathinaai na ho (mujhe naheen pata ki kaise akshar ka matlab samajhaaya jaae ya kairaiktar ko hindi mein kya kehte hain)<>< Bill william compton^Talk 14:21, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

chooainki hindi/devanaagari ek roop se dhvanyaatmak hain, at: inmein akshar (syllable) se chhota koi roop naheen hota. isse chhote mein varn aur maatra alag-alag ginne padeinge, yahi baat spasht kar di hai, par koi shabd na hone ke kaaran "kairaiktar" ka prayog jyon-ka-tyon karna pada.

chunauti ke maamale mein mera arth tha ki vartamaan niyam lekhon se sambandhit bataaya gaya hai huk ke bajaae. iska arth yeh hai ki poore lekh mein aisi koi jaankaari naheen honi chaahiye jise chunauti di ja sake (arthaat agar Obama ka lekh naamaankit hota hai, aur tathya hai "Obama Colorado springs gaye the" par lekh mein kaheen bina sandarbh ke likha hai "Obama ki do putriyaaain hain", to chunauti to koi vyakti is tathya ko bhi de sakta hai.) is udaaharan mein di baat ka srot dhooaindhana mushkil naheen hai, parantu kai baar aisa ho sakta hai ki lekh mein kaheen koi baat aisi likhi ho jiska sandarbh abhi na mil pa raha ho. aise mein sirf is kaaran se is niyam ka ullanghan ho jaaega. at: niyam agar sirf huk ke sandarbh mein hai to huk vaale niyamon ke saath hona chaahiye, agar lekh ke sandarbh mein hai to hamein ye bataana chaahiye ki kitni maatra mein asandarbhit saamagri lekh mein ho sakti hai. yeh maatra asandarbhit tathyon ki sankhya bhi ho sakti hai, aur poorn lekh ki saamagri ka kuchh pratishat bhi. shaayad sankhya behtar rahegi chooainki bade lekh pehle hi achhi gunavatta ke honge aur chhote lekhon mein pratishat ka koi upayog naheen.

udaaharan:lekh sandarbhaheen na ho, balaki usamein 5 se adhik srotaheen tathya naheen hone chaahiye.

ek baar mein keval teen huk ya ek raashtra sambandhi teen huk (chh: mein se)? agar pehla hai to bahut kam honge mukhaprushth ke liye, aur agar aap chh: mein se teen kah rahe hain, to use 2 hi hona chaahiye. aadha bhaag keval ek desh ki jaankaari ho theek naheen hai (fir chaahe vah Bhaarat sambandhi ho ya America sambandhi). do saptaah vaale apavaad mein do se adhik lagaana theek hai, par usase pehle hamein do ki seema paar naheen karni chaahiye. (agar aage chalake ye apavaad lagaataar hone laga to niyam fir badal leinge, par kam-se-kam aisa na hone dene ki ek baar koshish to curry hi ja sakti hai).--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 21:14, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

antar bataane ke liye dhnyavaad.

"lekh sandarbhaheen na ho, balaki usamein 5 se adhik srotaheen tathya naheen hone chaahiye", yeh prastaav theek hai.

kshama karein, teen se mera taatparya kisi huk ki mukhaprushth par adhiktam samay seema se tha. "do ki seema paar naheen karni chaahiye", yahi to mera prastaav tha: "kam se kam ek saptaah va adhik se adhik do". to fir ise teen karein ya do hi rahane dein?

kisi raashtra se sambandhit huk hone ke sandarbh mein to mera auchitya abhi bhi yahi hai ki "kisi bhi samay do se adhik kisi vishesh raashtra se sambandhit huk naheen lagaae jaaeainge, parantu unka naamaankan is baat se vifal naheen hoga, bas kuchh samay baad aise huk ka adyatan hoga".

maine huk se sambandhit ek or niyam joda hai, krupaya use bhi dekh lein.<>< Bill william compton^Talk 02:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

teen saptaah theek hai, galat arth nikaalne ke liye kshama karein. mainne niyamon mein upayukt parivartan kar diye hain. naya niyam bhi theek hai chooainki mukhaprushth mein "aaj ke din" naamak koi bhaag naheen hai to aise tathyon ko filhaal isi bhaag mein joda ka sakta hai aur unke liye ye apavaad theek hai.

mujhe ab ye niyam theek lag rahe hain evam inhein (vartamaan roop mein) mera samarthan hai.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 20:19, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

hindi aksharaatmak lipi hai varnaatmak naheen. isliye kairektar ginne ke bajaay akshar ginein. varana kshetr jaise chhote shabd mein bhi 7 kairektar gine jaaengein. isliye lekh ka nyunatam aakaar aksharon mein ya 200-250 shabd rakhein. ek apavaad din sambandhi soochana ke liye banaaen ek to iske liye koi saaaincha naheen hai isliye ham kya aap jaante hain mein yadi 4 tathya dikhaana chaahate hon to 5 tathya dikhaane ki vyavastha karein aur ek sthaan (sabse neeche ka) din sambandhi soochana ke liye nirdhaarit karne par vichaar karein. . dinon ke aalekh par kisi naya sandarbh sahit tathya jodne par saath hi anya shart poori karne par kisi prabandhak ke seedhe kya aap jaante hain mein jodne ki suvidha honi chaahiye. puraana lekh doguna karne ki shart ko bhi hamein mool lekh ke liye nirdhaarit shabd ya akshar sankhya se jodna chaahiye. arthaat kisi lekh mein 200 shabdon ka sandarbh sahit vistaar is khaane ke liye paatr banane ke liye jaroori ho. aniruddh vaarta 01:25, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

aksharon mein ginne mein bhi koi pareshaani naheen hai, par aise mein ya to hamein koi svachaalit tool dhooaindhana hoga (jo mujhe abhi to net par mila naheen), ya fir ek niyam ye bhi hona chaahiye ki naamaankanakarta ko swayam naamaankan mein aksharon ki ginti swayam bataani hogi. huk ke liye to ye aasaan hai par poore lekh ke akshar bina tool ke ginna kisi ke bas ki baat naheen.

saaaincha vartamaan roop mein kitne bhi tathya dikha sakta hai, ginti ki is samay koi seema naheen hai; at: usamein filhaal iske liye parivartan naheen karna padega.

din sambandhi soochana ke liye to apavaad pehle se hi ban gaya hai lekh ke aakaar wala. par tithi vaale tathya ko alag dikhaana abhi naheen shuroo karna chaahiye mere vichaar se. filhaal unhein sabhi tathyon ke saath hi rahane dein. jab aise tathya lagaataar aane lagein to unhein is bhaag se hi alag kiya ja sakta hai aur ek "aaj ka din" bhaag banaaya ja sakta hai. parantu jab tak ve isi bhaag mein dikhaae ja rahe hain unhein alag naheen dikhaana chaahiye.

dugune vaale niyam mein alag se ye baat likhne ki aavashyakta naheen honi chaahiye, chooainki dugune hone ke kaaran aae ya nae hone ke kaaran, lekh ko shabd/akshar/kairaiktar waali nyoonatam seema ko, aur sandarbh-sahit hone ki seema ko to maanana hi hoga. arthaat duguna vistaar na hi anya niyamon ka apavaad hai, na hi unhein khaarij karne ka tareeka hai. mere khyaal se yeh baat saaf hai.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 05:48, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

• abhi tak kisi bhi sadasya ne in niyamon ke prati apna virodh prastut naheen kiya hai. anirudh ji ke bhi sabhi prashnon ka uttar siddhaarth ji ne de diya hai. chaupaal pe is charcha ki soochana di ja chuki hai, is sthiti mein mujhe lagta hai ki in niyamon ko apna lena chaahiye.<>< Bill william compton^Talk 12:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

jaisa ki mainne pehle bhi kaha hai, is kaarya ke liye meri poorn sahamati hai.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 15:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

siddhaarth, krupaya in niyamon ko "niyam" anubhaag mein laga dein, main aisa kar deta parantu mujhe pata hai ki main vahaaain kuchh galati kar dooainga (vyaakaran sambandhi), aur pariyojana prushth par aisi galati hon yeh theek naheen hai.<>< Bill william compton^Talk `

jin niyamon par yahaaain charcha hui hai unka adyatan kar diya hai aur jinpar yahaaain koi charcha naheen hui (chitr aur badlaav sambandhi kuchh soochanaatmak baatein), aur pradarshit huk ke lekh ka samaachaar bhaag mein na hona; niyamon mein chhod diye hain. chooainki yahaaain par charcha in vishyon par naheen hui, at: mera maanana hai ki inapar koi aapatti bhi naheen hai/thi, at: inhein niyamon mein chhod diya hai.--siddhaarth ghai (vaarta) 07:02, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

vartamaan niyam :

• lekh zaroori naheen hai ki naya hi ho, parantu agar koi lekh jo pehle bhi "kya aap jaante hain" ke liye naamit ho chuka hai to vah lekh aakaar mein pehle ke mukaabale kam se kam do guna tak vistrut kiya gaya ho.

prastaavit sanshodhan :

• naya huk kisi bhi lekh mein se diya ja sakta hai haalaaainki nae athva haal hi mein vistrut lekhon ko praathamikta di jaaegi. agar koi lekh jo pehle bhi "kya aap jaante hain" ke liye naamit ho chuka hai to vah lekh aakaar mein pehle ke mukaabale kam se kam do guna tak vistrut kiya gaya ho.

samarthan

• samarthan - prastaavak ke naate. --manoj khuraana 06:09, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

virodh

tippani

manoj ji, aisa karne se duvidha kam naheen hogi. hamein jaroorat naye sadasyon ko yahaaain naamaankan mein badhaava dene ke liye utsaahit karne ki hai. mukhaprushth par huk ko laane ke liye sadasya achhe lekh banaana seekh jaate hain aur yeh bhi prashikshan ka ek hissa hai. yadi ham niyam ko is tarah kar deinge to naye sadasyon ki roochi padhkar aisi baatein dhooaindhne mein ho jaayegi aur vo sampaadak se paathak ban jaayeinge.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 09:29, 29 May 2015 (UTC)