vikipeediya:chaupaal

vikipeediya chaupaal par aapka svaagat hai
naye aagantukon ka svaagat hai. vikipeediya ek aisa maadhyam hai jo sabhi sadasyon ke gyaan ko ek jagah ekatrit karta hai. vikipeediya ke dvaara ham sanskruti, vigyaan, kala va darshan ki jaankaari duniya bhar mein hindi padhne-likhne vaalon tak pahuaincha sakte hain. at: sahi hindi jaanane vaalon se anurodh hai ki aap ke paas yadi samay ho to apni jaankaari ko hindi mein vikipeediya par sahejein. yahaaain par vikipeediya ke sadasya vikipeediya se jude prashn poochh sakte hain. takaneeki maamalon par bhi yahaaain prashn poochhe ja sakte hai. naya mat likhne ke liye sampaadan taib par klik karein. parantu pehle skraul kar padh lein:
  • tathyaparak aur anya prakaar ke prashnon hetu khoj sandook ya rifrens desk ka prayog karein.
  • apni suraksha hetu krupaya apna E-mel ya sampark byaura yahaaain na dein. aapke uttar is prushth par hi mileinge. ham E-mel se uttar naheen dete hain.
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  • is saptaah ka sudhaar hetu lekh : vikipeediya:is saptaah ka sudhaar hetu lekh/2016/24

is pariyojana prushth ka antim sanpaadan Manojkhurana (yogadaanlaug) dvaara kiya gaya tha.

Rakesh Kumar aarya

Rakesh Kumar aarya lekh mein hahech ka saaaincha hata diya gaya aur putr ka naam "aman aarya" hataakar vyaktigat sambandhon chhipaakar hahech ko apne paksh mein karne ki koshish ki ja rahi hai. mainne pehle ki sthiti punarsthaapit ki magar kaun kya karega ye main naheen jaanta. prabandhagan krupaya jaldi hi nirnaya lein. --mujmmil (vaarta) 18:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

chakrapaani ji ke liye punareekshak pad hetu nivedan

mitron mainne yahaaain vikipeediya:punareekshak pad hetu nivedan#chakrapaani chakrapaani ji ke liye punareekshak pad hetu nivedan diya hai. aap log bhi apni rai yahaaain rakh sakte hain. --mujmmil (vaarta) 10:17, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

chooainki is naamaankan ko chakrapaani ji ne asveekaar kiya hai, isliye nivedan vaapas samjha gaya hai.--mujmmil (vaarta) 11:01, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

roman (angreji) vartani mein likhe sheershakon se devanaagari sheershakon par punarnirdeshan hetu prastaav

krupaya dhyaan dein! ham hindi vikipeediya par roman lipi mein likhe sheershakon ko saamaanyataya naheen rakhate. prastaavit vishay yeh hai ki kuchh sheershakon ke liye roman vartani se unke devanaagari sheershakon par anupreshan (punarnirdesh) banaaye ja sakte hain. udaaharan ke liye New York sheershak ko New York nagar par anupreshit kiya ja sakta hai. angreji vikipeediya par aise udaaharan upalabdh hain. udaaharan ke liye devanaagari (hindi) lipi se angreji ke sheershakon par diye gaye anupreshanon ki soochi yahaaain par dekhi ja sakti hai. mantavya yeh ki yadi aap angreji viki par devanaagari mein type karke "Jaipur" khojein to aap Jaipur ke jriye Jaipur par pahuainch jaayeinge. haalaaainki hamaare yahaaain bhi aap New Delhi se nai Delhi par pahuainch sakte hain.

kintu aise anupreshan banaane ke liye koi saaf neeti naheen hai aur aamtaur par roman se devanaagari pe kiye anupreshanon ko hata diya jaata hai. at: nimlikhit binduon par sujhaav aamantrit hain:

  • kya aise anupreshan rakhe jaane chaahiyein?
  • kya harek sheershak ke liye aisa karna uchit hoga?
  • yadi kuchhek sheershakon ke liye hi aisa karna theek ho to un sheershakon ke chunaav hetu kya maanadand hon?

sadhanyavaad! --styam mishr baatcheet 18:41, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

samarthan

  1. Symbol support vote.svg samarthan mujhe aise anupreshan rakhane ki baat theek lag rahi hai. iske ye kaaran hain:
    (k) mujhe bahut angreji terms ke liye hindi shabd ya vartani pata nahi hain, jiske kaaran main inhein hindi vikipeediya par khoj naheen pata. isliye mujhe vishay ko pehle angreji vikipeediya par khojana padta hai, aur fir wikidata entry ke jariye hindi lekh par aana padta hai. agar hindi vikipeediya par aisa ek redirection prushth hota, to main seedhe hindi vikipeediya par khoj paata. mujhe lagta hai ki doosaron ko bhi ye samasya aati hogi.
    (kh) bahut se logon ko hindi mein type karna naheen aata. par agar ve hindi vikipeediya ke search box mein angreji type kareinge to unhein lekh naheen milega.
    (g) is se Google khoj mein hindi vikipeediya ke lekh bhi dikhaai deinge. --gaurav (vaarta) 19:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

tatasth

  1. mere anusaar jaisa hai use vaisa hi rahane dein. kintu savaal yeh uthata hai ki:
  • jab english viki par hindi ke reedaayarekt rakhe ja sakte hain to hindi viki par kyon naheen?
  • aise reedaayarekt rakhane mein nuksaan kya hai?
  • aur ankon ke maamale mein main kehna chaahooainga ki arabi-hindu ankon ka hi prayog karein. sabhi badi bhaashaaon mein inhi ka prachalan hai.

jahaaain sarch engine(non) ki baat ho rahi hai mainne Google par sarch kar ke dekha hai ab ve hindi traanslitreshan tool ka prayog sarch mein bhi kar rahe hain jaise:

--- chakrapaani vaarta 08:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

virodh

  1. mujhe aisa karne ka koi kaaran samajh naheen aaya. Google aadi jaise sarch engine mein keval devanaagari lipi mein likha hua koi bhi lekh roman lipi mein likh kar bhi khoja ja sakta hai. main bhi kai baar roman lipi mein hi Google mein hindi srot khojata hooain aur mil bhi jaata hai. vaise yadi koi hindi vikipeediya mein bhi roman lipi mein kuchh bhi khojein to yadi lekh mein ek angreji sandarbh bhi ho to us lekh ka khoj parinaam mein naam aa jaata hai. --Sfic (vaarta) 07:37, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
  2. aisa karna bilkul bhi achhi baat naheen hai. ank bhi roman mein naheen hone chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 07:47, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
  3. main sfik ji se sahamat hooain.--mujmmil (vaarta) 12:00, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

tippani

is tarah ke anupreshan us samay ke liye hain jab khoj karne vaale upakaran (jaise Google, Yahoo aadi) itne saksham naheen the. ab ismein kaafi sudhaar ho chuka hai at: aise anupreshanon ka mere hisaab se koi mahattv naheen hai. "New Delhi" ka "nai Delhi" par anupreshan bilkul galat hai. haaain kuchh vishesh roop se prachalit aur vishisht shabdon ka anupreshan kiya ja sakta hai lekin uske liye ek niymaavali hona thoda saarthak rahega. lekin aisi niymaavali banaana bhi apne aap mein chhota kaam naheen hai. gaurav ji, aap Google mein "new york site:hi.wikipedia.org" likhoge to hindi waali kadi hi milegi.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 20:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

hindi vikipeediya khojane maatr ke liye angreji shabd se anupreshan dene ka koi arth naheen hai. iske liye lekhon mein maita taig angreji mein diye ja sakte hain athva jab New York naamak lekh mein kaheen bhi New York likha hai to vo khojane mein aa jaayega.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 20:04, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
ji, filhaal vikipeediya khoj bahut jyaada buddhimaan naheen hain (Google khoj buddhimaan hai, ye mujhe chakrapaani ji ki tipnni se pata chala. dhanyavaad). vikipeediya khoj par lekh tabhi milta hai agar lekh ke andar angrejeee naam bhi likha ho. mainne vikipeediya khoj par Arkansas, Idaho, Ohio, Illinois, Arizona khoje, par sahi parinaam naheen mila.
main bas chaahata hooain ki lekh khojana aasaan ho. main naheen kah raha ki aisa redirection prushth daal kar hi karna chaahiye. agar koi aur tareeka hai, to vo bhi chalega.
ant mein yeh kehna chaahooainga ki ye bas meri vyaktigat rai hai. aap sab jaisa theek samajhein, mujhe sveekaar hai. --gaurav (vaarta) 08:49, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
gaurav ji, yadi aarkansa jaise lekh mein ek bhi angreji naam hota to aapko usaka parinaam oopar mein avashya dikhaai deta. vaise mujhe lagta hai ki yadi ham har lekh mein kam se kam ek angreji sandarbh bhi daal dete hain to isse ye kaam hone ke saath hi sandarbhaheen lekhon mein sudhaar bhi ho jaaega. --Spic (vaarta) 10:20, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Google khoj enyain hai, vikipeediya khoj keval hindi viki par sthit lekh khojane ke liye hai. uparaant aapko hindi mein hi khoj karni padegi.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 11:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
mujhe to bahut baar angreji ke lekh khojane mein pareshaani hoti hai. udaaharan ke liye sahi speling na pata ho to. yadi angreji vaalon ne utapataang speling vaale lekhon ko devanaagari mein bhi likhkar punarpreshit kiya hota to mujhe bahut aasaani hoti.--anunaad Singh (vaarta) 11:42, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
not: nimnalikhit kuchh tippaniyaaain hain. krupaya inhein achhi neeyat maanein. ant mein aap sab jo bhi faisala leinge, mujhe vo sveekaar hoga.
@YmKavishwar: ji, ek achhi website rigid naheen flexible hoti hai. ek achhi website har upayogakarta ke baare mein sochati hai, aur use us tarah prayog karne deti hai jo use suvidhaajanak lage. agar ham keval hindi mein khoj karne deinge, to bahut se upayogakartaaon ke liye website ko prayog karna mushkil ho jaaega.
@Sfic: ji, aapko ek udaaharan deta hooain. alaaska lekh mein angreji shabd diya gaya hai, fir bhi Alaska type karne par alaaska lekh chauthe number par aata hai. mujhe lagta hai ki ye user-friendly naheen hai. mere hisaab se Alaska type karne par khoj parinaam aane ke bajaay seedhe alaaska lekh khulana chaahiye. --gaurav (vaarta) 12:37, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
vikipeediya ke prakalp vishv ki sabhi pramukh bhaasha mein hai. ek hi vishay ke sabhi lekh ek doosare ke saath viki data ke saath joode hue hai. aap ko vishv ki jo bhi bhaasha mein lekh khojana ho to us bhaasha ke vikipeediya mein usi bhaasha mein khoj karni padegi. ye hindi vikipeediya hai. aapko angreji mein khoj karni hai to angreji vikipeediya par hi jaana padega. vaha se aapko hindi viki ke lekh ki kadi mil jaaegi. hindi mein lekh padhne ke baad aapko angreji shabd ke liye hindi shabd aur vartani ka gyaan bhi hoga. ye yatn se aapki hindi bhi achhi ho jaaegi.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 15:54, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
gaurav ji, jab main hindi mere leptop mein Google par Alaska khojata hooain to sabse upar hindi viki ka prushth alaaska aata hai lekin iska kaaran ye hai ki main hindi vaale prushthon ko sochana pasand karta hooain. lekin hindi vikipeediya par aapko ye lekh sabse upar naheen mila, iska kaaran yeh naheen hai ki hamein anupreshit kar dena chaahiye. iska kaaran yeh hai ki iske upar aane vaale prushthon mein ye shabd hindi mein likha hua hona chaahiye tha lekin aisa naheen hai aur vo prushth kisi aur kaaran se jyaada log dekhte hain at: khojane mein upar aa gaya. aapka kehna thoda anuchit hai kyonki iske baad aap yeh bhi kehna chaahoge ki aap yadi galat vartani daalte ho to bhi yeh usi prushth par jaaye. ho sakta hai bhavishya mein ye bhi sambhav hai lekin ise abhi yahaaain mumakeen karna sambhav naheen hai. vaise aap to computer vigyaan se jude huye vyakti ho, aapko bhi kuchh takaneeki sahayog dena chaahiye. iske atirikt mujhe Sfic ji ki sandarbh waali baat bahut achhi lagi. kisi bhi lekh mein kam se kam ek sandarbh angreji mein dene mein koi buraai naheen hai aur main to yeh kehna chaahooainga ki ye sandarbh itni bhaashaaon mein do ki khojane wala kisi bhi bhaasha mein khoje, sabse upar hindi wala prushth hi aaye.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 17:08, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
jaisa aap sabhi theek samajhein, meri sahamati bhi usi mein hai. main charcha samaapt karta hooain.
@sanjeev Kumar: ji, bas ek spashteekaran kar deta hooain: mainne Alaska vikipeediya par khoja tha, Google par naheen (Google par sabse pehle sahi lekh milta hai). --gaurav (vaarta) 17:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

yadi hindi vikipeediya par roman lipi mein likhe shabdon se anupreshan kiya jaae to usase hindi viki ka kya ahit hoga ispar bhi apne vichaar binduvaar vyakt karein.--styam mishr baatcheet 08:28, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

anupreshanon/punaranirdeshon ka auchitya

theek pehle ke anubhaag mein chal rahi charcha ko padhkar aisa prateet ho raha hai ki pehle anupreshanon ke oopar hi baat kar lein. hamaare yahaaain isse sambandhit dishaanirdesh vi:punarnirdeshan par hai, sangat angreji panna bhi padha ja sakta hai.

is kram mein kuchh prashn aur hain:

  • anupreshan kis liye banaaye jaate hain?
  • kya anupreshan Yahoo, Google, yandeks, bing ki suvidha ke liye hain ya ye hamaari viki ki apni cheej hain? poorvokt charcha mein Google sarch se kya lena dena hai ?
  • Google (ya aisi anya) khoj bahut buddhimaan ho chuki hai, to kya ab saare anupreshanon ko hata diya jaaya? oopar charcha se to yahi prateet ho raha hai ki khojane wala sach mein chaah hi le to ant-pant sahi panne pe pahuainch hi jaayega.
  • agar anupreshan banaaye jaane chaahiyein to kyon aur kin cheejon ke liye? vi:punarnirdeshan par bataaye kaaranon mein kya sudhaar ki gunjaaish hai aur inhein aur vistrut kiya jaana chaahiye ?

--sadhanyavaad !--styam mishr baatcheet 19:12, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

@Mala chaubey: ji, ye aur isse theek pehle waali charcha dekhiye (ye Star Wars anupreshan prushth se shuroo hui thi). krupaya aap bhi apni rai deejiye. --gaurav (vaarta) 08:37, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
@Hunnjazal: ji, krupaya aap bhi apni rai deejiye. --gaurav (vaarta) 08:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
yeh ek atyant mahatvapoorn charcha hai. punarnirdeshan ka mahatva lekhon ke baraabar hai. anupreshan lekhakon aur paathakon donon ke liye hain. hindi viki mein toote jodon ka ek bada kaaran anupreshanon ka aabhaav hai.
  1. angreji mein aap en:Bangalor likhein to seedha en:Bangalore jaayega. hindi mein baangalor ek laal jod hai. hindi viki mein dasiyon hajaar lekhon mein aise toote jod hain jinka dhyeya aise lekhon par pahuainchana hai jo astitv mein hain, jabki angreji mein aise jod sabhi chalte hain. anupreshan ek aisa adrushya jaal hai jo viki mein jaan foonk deta hai. har sambhav galati ke liye anupreshan hona chaahiye. har sambhav bhinn shabd roop ke liye anupreshan hona chaahiye.
  2. viki khoj vyavastha mein anupreshan chhupaae jaate hain, yaani koi agar khojabakse mein likh raha hai to akaaran anupreshan naheen dikhaae jaate. ve tab hi dikhte hain jab likhaai unki or chali jaati hai. masalan grah mein agar aap gr likhein to grah ka sujhaav hi milega. yadi grahon likhein, to vah anupreshit hokar sahi lekh par le jaayega.
  3. yeh sambhav naheen hai ki kisi bhi lekh ka lekhak likhte samay yeh jaan paayega ki kis vishay ka lekh kis naam se hain. yadi use har vishay par naam dhoondhana ho to aap andaaja laga sakte hain ki hindi viki mein lekh banaana anya bhaashaaon se adhik kathin aur dheema kaarya ho jaaega (vartamaan mein hai bhi). isi tarah angreji mein aap yadi likhte samay is vaakyaansh mein jod lagaaye "astronomers have discovered that neptunian rings are xyz" to keval braikit lagaane ki deri hai - "en:astronomers have discovered that en:neptunian rings are xyz" (jaahir hai ki angreji viki mein is :en: ki aavashyakta naheen) aur yeh taiyaar hai. yeh karna zaroori naheen - [[Astronomer|astronomers]]. agar yeh jod kabhi glat pad bhi jaaye, jaisa ki en:neptunian hai, jo kabhi-kabhaar hi hota hai, to lagbhag pratyek baar yeh kisi sambandhit vishay par hi jaata hai, jahaaain se kuchh hi klikon mein paathak sahi jagah pahuainch paata hai, jabki laal jod ka arth hai "yahaaain se aage koi rasta naheen hai".
  4. yadi hindi mein khagolashaastriyon ka anupreshan naheen hai to hindi viki ke lekhakon ko apaahij kar diya jaayega. jaise-jaise kisi vishay ke lekhon ke anupreshan badhte hain, vaise-vaise unamein aage lekh banaana asaan hota jaata hai. hamaari hindi viki mein anupreshanon ka aabhaav ek bahut hi badi viklaangata hai. bahut se lekhak saralatam cheejon ke bhi jod daalte hi naheen kyonki unhein pata hai ki anya lekhon ka anaayaas milna asambhav hai. angreji viki mein is bharose ke saath jod daale jaate hain ki kisi buniyaadi vishay ke kisi bhi aaspaas ke naam ke jod ke chal jaane ki sambhaavana bahut hai. vlaadeemeer pootin, vlaadeemeer pootin, vlaadimeer pootin, vlaadimir pootin, vlaadimeer pooteen, vlaadeemir pooteen, vlaadamir putin - lekh astitv mein hai - vlaadimeer putin - lekin bahut se lekhak koshish hi naheen kareinge. theek yaheen soorya grahan#khagol shaastreeyon ki gananaayein mein hua hai, jahaaain theek neeche ki saamagri mein khagol shaastreeyon ek saral punarpreshit jod hona chaahiye tha.
  5. naye lekhakon ko sikhaaya jaana chahiye ki jab aap lekh banaate hain aur usamein jod lagaate hain to, agar vah jod laal dikhe, sahi lekh ka naam dhoondhe. yadi lekh astitv mein ho to sabse pehle anupreshan banaae - agar aapne glat likha tha, fir bhi banaaye. uske baad agar aap apne lekh mein naam badalkar maanak naam jod ke liye prayog karna chaahein to aapki ichha, lekin yeh anupreshan avashya banaaye kyonki jo aapse hua theek vaheen aane vaale laakhon lekhakon aur paathakon se hoga.
  6. main satyam mishr ji ki rai se poori tarah sahamat hooain ki vi:punarnirdeshan par charcha ho aur use vistrut aur susangathit kiya jaaye.
dhanyavaad --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 16:19, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
@Hunnjazal: aapko sujhaavon ke liye dhanyavaad. mujhe abhi bhi ek baat atapati lagti hai. aapne apne 4 varsh puraane vichaaron ko lagbhag jyon ka tyon rakh diya hai. haaain aapki baatein saaragarbhit hain aur kuchh had tak theek bhi hain lekin ismein kuchh maamalon mein ye aavashyakta se adhik bhi ho jaata hai. pehla udaaharan aapne baangalor ka diya hai jabki uske kaaran mujhe ek bhi tuti hui kadi naheen mili jabki angreji vikipeediya par en:Bangalor (bangalor athva iske tulya prachalit kannad shabd ko angreji lipi mein seedha likhne par yeh shabd banta hai.) ko kam se kam 2 prushthon par kaam mein liya gaya hai. at: yeh tulana adhik mahattv naheen rakhati. mainne logon ko aapasi baatcheet mein Jaipur ko "jpr" likhte aksar dekha hai lekin en:jpr mujhe naheen mila. lekin aapki vlaadimeer putin ke baare mein kahi gayi baat poornat: uchit hai.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 19:10, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
sarvaadhik anupreshan to mujhe lagta hai hindi vartani mein hi aavashyak hai - aap roos mein hindi aur roos mein hindi ko hi lein - doosra aapko yeh tippani ke samay laal rang mein milega - kya hindi aur hindi do alag bhaashaaeain hain? --mujmmil (vaarta) 19:18, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
sanjeev ji, sahi baat hai, baangalor achha udaaharan naheen. mujmmil ji, yeh anusvaar waali baat bahut hi theek kahi - is se bhi hindi viki mein bahut se toote jod utpann hote hain. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 03:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
mujmmil ji, mujhe "roos mein hindi" se kai prushth jude huye mile lekin ek bhi prushth mein "roos mein hindi" (chaupaal ko chhodkar) ki ek bhi laal-kadi naheen mili.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 07:47, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
sanjeev ji, mera kehna keval anupreshan ke baare mein hai. nivedan hai ki jahaaain par bhi sheershak mein hindi ya hindi ho to doosare sheershak apne aap redirect ho. mere vichaar se do tarah se likhe jaane shabdon ke liye yeh kaam ke liye aapke baut ka prayog kiya ja sakta hai. --mujmmil (vaarta) 11:24, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

tippani bhaag 2

main kuchh aur tippaniyaaain bhi likhna chaahata hooain. aajkal hindi bhaashi logon mein hindi ke sthaan par hingalish ka prachal bahut badh gaya hai aur online baatcheet ke maadhyamon mein bhi devanaagari lipi ke sthaan par roman lipi kaam mein lete hain. aise logon ko devanaagari mein likhne mein bahut pareshaani hoti hai. iska parinaam yeh hota hai ki aise log adhiktar lekhon mein Bhaarat ke sthaan par India likhna pasand karte hain. ab yadi ham India ko Bhaarat (jaisa vartamaan mein bhi hai.) par anupreshit kar dete hain to saamaanya roop mein dekhne par us prushth mein India shabd par bahut hi kam logon ka dhyaan jaayega. lekh dekhne mein jaroor sundar lagega lekin uske pichhe ki sachchaai yeh hogi ki lekh mein angreji ke shabdon ki bharamaar ho jaayegi aur lekh ki gunavata ke saath bahut hi galat samjhauta hoga.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 07:53, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

mitro, aapko pata hai hame selari naheen milti fir bhi jyaadaatar yogadaanakarta viki mein yogadaan kyoon dete hai ? ek pramukh kaaran hai bhaasha ke prati prem. viki ki pariyojanaaeain sabhi bhaasha mein hai. unka ek uddeshya ye bhi hai ki ye gyaan hamein hamaari bhaasha mein mile. 'ye jnyaaanakosh hindi bhaasha mein hai' ye hamein bhoolana naheen chaahiye. hindi ki gunavatta ke saath samjhauta karna hindi ke pairo par kulhaadi maarane jaisa hai. anko ke naam par hindi ke devanaagari anko ke saath khilvaad ho chooka hai. iska parinaam dekhiye arabi anko ki bharamaar. aage jaake paristhiti ye I ki devanaagari ank samajhne ki shakti bhi ja rahi hai. bhaasha ki inse buri kooseva aur naheen ho sakti. ab ye doosare tareeke se hindi par angreji ko haavi karne ka prayaas ho raha hai. ye hindi vikipeediya hai yahaaain hindi aur devanaagari ka prayog naheen hoga to aur kaha hoga ? geeta mein shri Krishna ne kaha hai ki 'svadharm nidhnam shreya: paradharmo bhayaav:.' arthaat ye hindi viki ke liye kaha jaae to hindi mein kitni bhi glatiyaaain kyoon na ho doosari bhaasha ko hindi par haavi karna naheen chaahiye. ham sabhi bhaasha ka sanmaan karte hai lekin ye karne se hindi mein arabi shabdo ki bharamaar hogi jaisa ki anko mein hua hai.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:46, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
kaveeshvar ji ek chhota sa prashn hai! aapki pratham bhaasha shaayad gujaraati hai aur meri Bhojpuri. fir bhi ham yahaaain hindi viki par yogadaan kar rahe hain. yeh na to aapka "svadharm" hai, na mera. to kya ham koi "bhayaavah:" type ka krutya kar rahe hain? aapka "sv" kitna bada hai, aur "par" kahaaain se shuroo hota hai? uttar dena chaahein to mere vaarta prushth par deejiyega, yahaaain naheen! kyonki yahaaain vishay kuchh aur hai!--styam mishr baatcheet 08:37, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
satyam ji, main aapke vaarta prushth par uttar de raha hooain.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:39, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

namaste yogesh kaveeshvar ji! aapka drushtikon nishchit roop se hindi ke bhale ke liye hai, lekin main is baat se asahamat hooain ki anupreshan se hindi ki gunavatta prabhaavit hogi. angreji vikipeediya mein en:Berber peoples, en:Berber people, en:Berbers, en:Berbers aadi sabhi khoj ek hi lekh ko jaate hain, aur dhooaindhane mein koi dikkat naheen hoti. magar hindi mein kaheen kaheen kisi shabd ke saath hindi aur hindi hi likhein to aapko fark dikhega. hindi mein aise bahut saare shabd hain jo lekhakon aur paathakon ko pareshaan karte hain. isi tarah amreeka, amareeka, America, amereeka ke saath bhi hai. kya aise shabdon ka anupreshan naheen hona chaahiye? anupreshan ki suvidha ka ek bahut bada kaaran yahi hai aur vikipediya neeti (en:Wikipedia:Redirect) bhi yahi kehti hai. sanjeev Kumar ji ka kehna hai ki aajkal hindi bhaashi logon mein hindi ke sthaan par hingalish ka prachalan bahut badh gaya hai aur online baatcheet ke maadhyamon mein bhi devanaagari lipi ke sthaan par roman lipi kaam mein lete hain. aise logon ko devanaagari mein likhne mein bahut pareshaani hoti hai. yeh sahi baat hai aur anupreshan ke kram mein hamein in baaton par bhi dhyaan kendrit karna hoga. vi:punarnirdeshan par bataaye kaaranon mein nishchit roop se sudhaar ki gunjaaish hai aur ise atyant vistrut aur vyaapak banaae jaane ki aavashyakta hai.

ham sabhi ko charcha karke hindi viki mein anupreshanon ka aabhaav ko mitaana hoga. kyonki kisi vishay ke lekhon ke anupreshan badhne se aage lekh banaana bahut hi asaan ho jaata hai. ab dekhiye hindi vikipeediya par hindi ke hi shabd patraalaya khojane par laal kadi dikhti hai jabki daakaghar khojane par lekh mil jaata hai. usi prakaar post aafis ya daakakhaana likhne par bhi koi parinaam naheen praapt hota. hamein yeh naheen bhoolana chaahiye ki anupreshan lekhakon aur paathakon donon ke liye jaroori hain. har jeevit bhaasha mein nae nae shabd bante rahate hain parantu prachalan mein vahi shabd sveekaarya hote hain jinhe jan maanas ya lokamaanas sveekaarata hai. anupreshan karte samay hamein saare paryaayavaachi shabdon jaise adhyaapak, teacher, shikshak, aachaarya, pradhyaapak, professor aadi par bhi gaur karna chaahiye. isi prakaar dekhein to hindi bhaashi kshetron mein deshaj shabd relagaadi ka prayog kam hota hai jabki train ka prayog sarvaadhik hota hai, magar hindi viki par train khojane par laal kadi aati hai. ek aur paryaaya hai lauh path gaamini. anupreshan mein hamein in saari baaton par dhyaan kendrit karna hoga. isi prakaar twenty twenty, bees bees, bees bees pratiyogita aur tventi tventi par bhi anupreshan ki prakriya apanaani hogi. hindi ke sthaan par hingalish ka prachalan badh jaane se log shabd ko lekar tarah-tarah ke prayog karte dikh jaate hain. hamein galat prayog se bhi bachana hoga, kyonki shabd bahu prachalit hone par shabdakoshon mein jaate hain, apne ghar ke draaing room mein "rach dene" se naheen.--maala chaubevaarta 07:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

sarvapratham, charcha mein bhaageedaar sadasyon se vinmr anurodh hai ki charcha ke mool binduon par pehle rai dein aur anya sadasyon ki tippaniyon par baad mein tippani karein. Hunnjazal ji aur Mala chaubey ji ki tippaniyon ke aadhaar par mujhe saaf prateet ho raha hai ki vi:punarnirdeshan mein sudhaar aur parimaarjan ki zaroorat hai. @sanjeev Kumar: ji ke yahaaain diye uttar] aur oopar likhi tippaniyon mein mujhe aapki rai sapasht naheen samajh aayi. at: nivedan hai ki charcha ke mool bindu ke roop mein poochhe gaye prashnon par apni rai dein. (aur jaisa ki aapne Hunnjazal ki tippani par tippani ki hai, agar aisi charcha pehle ho chuki hai to usaki kadi bhi dein!) --styam mishr baatcheet 08:25, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

@satyam mishr: vo ek vivaadit charcha thi. aapne jaankaari chaahi hai at: kadi de raha hooain: mera aur Hunnjazal ji ka vaartaalaap vikipeediya:chaupaal/puraalekha_33#vichitr charcha naamak anubhaag se aage aur vikipeediya:chaupaal/puraalekha_33#anupreshan par aage ki tippani par milegi. lekin ismein itna kuchh naheen milega jo aapko vartamaan charcha se alag de sake. iske alaava Hunnjazal ji aur hemant ji ki charcha aapko sadasya_vaarta:Hunnjazal#anupreshan ke sambandh mein aur sadasya vaarta:Hemant wikikosh#anupreshan neeti par mil sakti hai. in charchaaon mein ek antar yeh bhi hai ki jab mainne Hunnjazal ji ke saath charcha ki thi tab hindi vikipeediya par mera anubhav unke saamane bahut kam tha.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 08:50, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
@satyam mishr: ji, angreji viki par kuchh devanaagari naamon ka anupreshan hai. iska matlab yeh bhi naheen hai ki ham jaakar vahaaain 'aam' ko mango par anupreshit karne ki koshish karein aur ve saharsh aisa karne deinge. ham bhi kuchh gine chune roman shabdon ko hindi par anupreshit karne ki chhoot de sakte hain, kintu uske peechhe ek thos kaaran hona chaahiye, New York ko New York par anupreshit karne jaisa naheen. pehle yeh baat kahi ja chuki hai ki anupreshan 'Google aadi dvaara khoje jaane mein aasaani' ke liye shaayad naheen hain. anupreshan ka doosra kaaran us shabd ko lekhon mein jyon ka tyon prayog karna bhi hai. yeh baat roman shabdon par laagoo naheen hoti kyonki hindi viki par roman mein - 'New York America ka ek shahar hai' - likhne ki bhi chhoot naheen hai. viki par intaraviki link ki ek atirikt suvidha bhi hai.--anunaad Singh (vaarta) 08:55, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
anunaad ji mainne bhi yeh charcha isi liye shuroo ki thi. mainne yeh naheen prastaavit kiya hai ki hindi viki par is samay 102629 lekh hain to sabhi ke liye roman lipi se anupreshan banaaye jaane chaahiyein. isse oopar ki charcha ke teen prashnon mein se pratham ke uttar mein hi yadi koi "naheen" kehta hai aur taarkik roop se bataata hai ki kyon, to use dusare prashn ka uttar naheen dena hai. doosra prashn hi yahi hai ki kin sheershakon ke liye? kya harek ke liye? aur teesara prashn yahi hai ki kin gine chune shabdon ke liye yeh chhoot di ja sakti hai? kin maanadandon (thos kaaranon) ke saath? aapko bhi apne vichaar rakhane chaahiyein.--styam mishr baatcheet 09:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

aage kaise badha jaaeain? yadi ham mein is neeti ko badhaane ki sahamati hai, main agale ek ya do dinon mein en:Wikipedia:Redirect ka anuvaad karke ise vikipeediya:punarnirdeshan/prastaav naamak naye prushth par daal sakta hooain jiske vaarta prushth par ham aapasi vaad-vivaad se usamein bindu-dar-bindu badlaav karke ek sahamati se bani neeti tak pahuainch sakte hai. yadi ham sahamati bana paaye to use paarit kar deinge, varana naheen. kya yeh upasthit sadasyon ko sveekaarya agala-kadam lagta hai? --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 16:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Hunnjazal ji, ye ek achha tarika hoga. iske baad aam charcha aur matadaan ke anusaar aavashyak chhote badlaav kar liye jaayeinge.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 16:20, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
meri poorn sahamati hai! kyonki yahaaain charcha bahut faladaayi naheen saabit ho rahi! --styam mishr baatcheet 17:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
dhanyavaad sanjeev ji va satyam ji, main ise kar ke yahaaain sandesh daalooainga. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 21:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

tippani bhaag 3

maala ji, mera kehane ka taatparya yeh naheen hai ki anupreshan karna hindi ki gunavatta ke saath samjhauta hai. arabi shabdo ko hindi shabdo ke prati anupreshit karne ka prayatn hua tha ye glat hai.

hunjjalaal ji, anupreshan ko vistaarit karna achhi baat hai aur main bhi inka samarthan karta hooain. kintu jis tarah arabi anko ko ghusa diya hai esa naheen hona chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 06:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

tippani bhaag 4

anuvaad poora ho chuka hai aur ab krupya vikipeediya:punarnirdeshan/prastaav ke vaarta prushth par charcha jaari rakhein. anuvaad mein kuchh kathinaaiyaaain I jinke liye tippani daali gayi hai aur kuchh saaainche keval angreji naamon se upasthit hain ya hai hi naheen. inapar vaarta karte hain. dhanyavaad! --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 09:51, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Server switch 2016 (sarvar parivartan 2016)

vikimeediya sansthaan nae data kendra ko dellaas mein pareekshan karne ja raha hai. yeh nishchit karna chaahata hai karne ke liye, ki vikipeediya aur anya vikimeediya viki ko kisi viptti ke baad bhi theek se kaam kare karein. ise nishchit karne ki yeh poore tarah se kaam karega, vikimeediya takaneeki vibhaag iske liye ek pareekshan ki yojana bana raha hai. jisse yeh pata chale ki ek data kendra se doosare data kendra mein le jaana suvidhaajanak hai ya naheen. iske liye kai dal dalon ki aavashyakta hai, jo is pareekshan ke liye taiyaar rahein aur kisi bhi pareshaani ko theek karne ke liye upalabdh rahein.

yeh nae data kendra mein ko mangalvaar, 19 April ko sthaanaantarit ho jaaega.
guruvaar, 21 April ko yeh pehle ke data kendra mein vaapas aa jaaega.

lekin kuchh seemitta ke ke kaaran meediyaaviki mein un do badlaav ke dauraan koi bhi sampaadan naheen ho sakeinge. ham is asuvidha ke liye khed prakat karte hain, aur bhavishya mein ise kam karne ka prayaas kareinge.

kuchh samay ke liye sabhi viki mein aap keval padh sakeinge, lekin likh naheen paaenge.

  • aap mangalvaar, 19 April aur guruvaar, 21 April ko 14:00 UTC (19:30 IST) keo 15 se 30 minute ke liye kuchh bhi naheen likh paaenge.
  • is samay ke dauraan yadi aap koi sampaadan karne ki koshish karte hain, to aapko ek truti sandesh dikhaai dega. ham yahi ummeed karte hain ki is samay ke dauraan koi bhi sampaadan naheen chhootega, lekin ham bharosa naheen dila sakte. yadi aapko koi truti sandesh dikhaai de, to krupaya sab kuchh theek hone tak prateeksha karein. uske baad aap apne sampaadan ko sahej sakte hain. lekin, ham aapko yahi sujhaav dete hain ki aap apne badlaav ko sahejane se pehle kaupi ya nakal kar rakhe.

anya prabhaav:

  • kuchh aantarik kaarya dheemi gati se kaarya kareinge aur kuchh band ho ho sakte hain. laal kadi saamaanya gati se adyatan naheen honge. yadi aap koi lekh banaate hain jo pehle se hi kaheen par joda gaya hai to vah laal rang ki kadi pehle se adhik samay tak vaise vaisi rahega raheingi. kuchh bahut lambe samay tak chalne vaale script ruk jaaeainge.
  • 18 April ke saptaah mein code bhi ruk sakte hain. koi bhi gair-anaavashyak code bhi sthaan par naheen sthaapit honge.

yeh pareekshan 22 March ko vaastavik roop se sthaapit hoga. 19 aur 21 April nae nayi tithi hain. aap tithi ko wikitech.wikimedia.org mein bhi padh sakte hain. is tithi mein yeh kai badlaav ko prabhaav daaleinge. is dauraan aur bhi soochanaaeain praapt hongi. krupaya is soochana ko apne viki samudaaya ko bhi dein. /Johan (WMF) (vaarta) 22:16, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

abhinandan prastaav


Wikipedia to the Moon (chaaaind par vikipeediya)

(hindi anuvaad: neeche)

Hello! Sorry that this is in English only, but we are using village pump messaging in order to reach as many language communities as possible. Wrong page? Please fix it here.

This is an invitation to all Wikipedians: Wikimedia Deutschland has been given data space to include Wikipedia content in an upcoming mission to the Moon. (No joke!) We have launched a community discussion about how to do that, because we feel that this is for the global community of editors. Please, join the discussion on Meta-Wiki (and translate this invitation to your language community)! Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 15:35, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

hindi mein:

namaskaar! kshama karein yeh keval angreji mein hai, lekin ham kai bhaasha samudaayon tak pahunchane ke liye vilej panp(chaupaal) sandesh ka upayog kar rahe hain.

galat pej? krupaya ise yahaaain theek karein.

yeh sabhi vikipeediynon ke liye ek nimantran hai: vikimeediya doichaleind ne aagaami chandrama mission mein vikipeediya saamagri ko shaamil karne ke liye jagah di hai.(majaak naheen hai!) yeh jaanane ke liye ki ise kaise karna hai, ke baare mein ek samudaaya charcha shuroo ki hai, kyonki hamein lagta hai ki yeh sampaadkon ke vaishvik samudaaya ke liye hai. krupaya, meta-viki par charcha mein shaamil hon. sabse achhi chandrama team vikimeediya doichaleind par 15:35, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

angreji vikipeediya ka anusaran

namaste doston, angreji vikipeediya par ek prushth banaate samay mujhe gyaat hua ki vahaaain par agrani bhaarateeya samaachaar patron mein se ek the hindu ko pratibndhit kiya gaya hai. mujhe yeh gyaat naheen hai ki ise kab aur kyon pratibndhit kiya gaya lekin yadi ham andhe hokar anusaran karein to hamein bhi ise pratibndhit kar dena chaahiye. at: main un logon se anurodh karna chaahooainga jo bina kaaran jaane, seedhe hi angreji vikipeediya ke niyam yahaaain laagoo karne ke prastaavon ka samarthan karte hain.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 12:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

@sanjeev Kumar: ji, 1) agar hamein lagta hai ki angreji vikipeediya par kuchh galat ho raha hai ya unke koi niyam theek naheen hain, to mere hisaab se hamein angreji vikipeediya par bhi baat karni chaahiye.
2) the hindu se pratibndh ek din mein hi hata liya gaya tha. --gaurav (vaarta) 10:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
gaurav ji, mainne ek udaaharan likha hai. aise hajaaron udaaharan de sakta hooain. main ye naheen kehta ki hamein vipreet karna chaahiye lekin unhein jyon ka tyon yahaaain bhi naheen laagoo kiya ja sakta. udaaharan ke liye angreji vikipeediya par sandarbh angreji mein hi dena hota hai, yadi angreji mein sambhav hi naheen ho pa raha ho tab anya bhaasha ke sandarbh sveekrut kiye jaate hain lekin hamaare yahaaain kisi bhi bhaasha ke sandarbh diye ja sakte hain.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 16:15, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
@sanjeev Kumar: ji, main aapki baat samajh raha hooain. dhanyavaad. --gaurav (vaarta) 19:37, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

main sahamat hooain. andha anusaran to kisi bhi cheej ka naheen karna chaahiye - angreji viki mein kuchh neetiyon ko banaane ki prakriya mein kaipitlaaijeshan (capitalization) ko lekar kheenchaataani hoti hai - yeh hindi mein samasya hai hi naheen - alag paristhitiyaaain, alag samaadhaan. haaain, jahaaain paristhitiyaaain samaan hon, vahaaain angreji viki ke hindi viki se kai guna adhik anubhav se seekha ja sakta hai. main gaurav ji ki bhi baat se sahamat hooain. agar hamein kisi bhi viki mein kuchh glat lage (aur vyaktigat samay ho) to usamein jaakar apni baat avashya rakhani chaahiye. vikipeediya ki vyavastha ke anusaar sabhi bhaasha-vikipeediya par sabka adhikaar hai. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 15:30, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

varishth sampaadak adhikaar niymaavali mein badlaav

namaste vikidoston, pichhle dinon varishth sampaadak adhikaaron ke liye hui anaavashyak bahas ko madhyanajr rakhate huye mainne kuchh niyamon ka prastaav rakha hai. vartamaan niyam mukhaprushth sampaadan ke saath koi judaav naheen rakhate at: mainne aise niyamon ka sujhaav diya hai jo mukhaprushth sampaadan se seedhe roop se jude hain aur isse anya sadasyon ko bhi mukhaprushth sampaadan ke liye prerana milne ki sambhaavana hai. haaain, niyam pehle ki tulana mein thode kathin hain. mainne niymaavali ka praathamik praaroop vikipeediya vaarta:varishth sampaadak adhikaar hetu nivedan#niymaavali mein badlaav aur sujhaav par likha hai. krupaya neeche naya upaanubhaag banaakar apni pratikriya dein.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 20:44, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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WikiConference India 2016 update

Hi,

After an elaborate community participation process, we are planning to host Wikiconference India 2016 in Chandigarh during August 5, 6 and 7.

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We will be calling applications for travel scholarship and paper presentations soon.

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Thanks.

--Ravidreams (vaarta) 20:44, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiConference India 2016 team.

As a stakeholder of the Wikimedia India community in India, please express your support and comments regarding the selection of host city, date and other aspects of this conference planning.

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Comments

shri Ram sena naamak lekh par charcha

☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 07:34, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@sanjeev Kumar: ji, krupaya apne vaarta prushth par hui charcha bhi vaarta:shri Ram sena par jod deejiye. --gaurav (vaarta) 08:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

lekh kailori mein sudhaar vaanchhit

vigyaan aur bhautiki se sambandh rakhane vaale sadasyon se nivedan hai ki is mahatvapoorn vishay ka kuchh vistaar karein. dhanyavaad !--styam mishr baatcheet 18:18, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Train-the-Trainer and MediaWiki Training: Capacity building initiatives for the Wikimedia community

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Like the previous years [1][2] CIS-A2K is planning for a capacity building activity for the Indic-language Wikimedia communities this year. This 3-4 day event, that is planned to be organized in Bengaluru, will include several parallel training sessions. The general sessions will broadly include:

  • How to conduct Wikimedia outreach (workshops, GLAM activities, edit-a-thons)
  • Ways to groom new contributors
  • Advanced Wikipedia editing and Wikipedia policy and guidelines

Similarly, the MediaWiki training will include:

  • MediaWiki - installation, analysis, understanding
  • Working with MediaWiki
  • How bots work on Wikimedia projects with an emphasis on pywikibot
  • Bug triage, bug life cycle, raising a bug, fixing a bug
  • General overview of FOSS, Openness, social media, Copyright, Creative Commons

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samasya

@Gaurav561, satyam mishr, Manojkhurana, Hindustanilanguage, hindusthaan vaasi, Sfic, aur raaju suthaar:@YmKavishwar, Hunnjazal, aur sanjeev Kumar:

ki gayi charcha ke liye dekhein: sadasya vaarta:satyam mishr#saaaincha:mukhaprushth samaachaar

jaisa ki oopar ki gayi charcha mein pata lagaaya gaya ki mukhya prushth ke saaainche seedheedaar suraksha mein hain aur inhein edit karne ke liye protekt raait hona aavashyak hai jo ki keval prabandhakon ke paas hota hai ab is kaaranavash main varishth sampaadak ke pad ke aadhe kaarya naheen kar paauainga (jaise: mukhya prushth adyatan, samaachaar adyatan aadi) kyonki ye saaainche seedheedaar suraksha mein hain. ab keval ve surakshit saaainche hi bache hain jo ismein naheen hai aur mainne mukhyat: samaachaar adyatan ke liye is adhikaar hetu vi:visheshaadhikaar nivedan#varishth sampaadak par aavedan kiya tha. ab ya to protekt raait is sadasyapad ko bhi diye jaaeain ya main swayam ko is padaadhikaar se mukt karne ka prastaav deta hooain. aap sabhi ki kya rai hai??--- chakrapaani vaarta 15:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

@chakrapaani: ji, mujhe lagta hai ki mukhaprushth se suraksha-seedhi hata kar un saaainchon ko surakshit karne se kaam ho jaayega. --Sfic (vaarta) 16:49, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
dhanyavaad Sfic ji, suraksha seedhi hataakar surakshit karne se ho jaaega. varishth sampaadak ko prushth surakshit karne ka adhikaar dena ho to charcha ka aarambh kar sakte hai. samarthan ke baad phabricator par rakhane se ho jaaega.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 17:44, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
shaayad is prakaar se hal nikal aae. --mujmmil (vaarta) 18:32, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
prabandhakagan bhi apna mat yahaaain vyakt karein. --- chakrapaani vaarta 03:53, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
mujhe seedhi hataakar surakshit karna sahi sujhaav lag raha hai. agar sanjeev ji bhi sahamat hain to yeh kar dena chaahiye. chakrapaani ji ke alaava anya kaun se sadasya is sandarbh mein sakreeya hone ke ichhuk hain - keval samasya ke paimaane ka anumaan lagaane ke liye poochh raha hooain. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 07:56, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

@satyam mishr, sanjeev Kumar, aur Mala chaubey: aapka kya khyaal hai?? krupaya bataaen. --- chakrapaani vaarta 05:21, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

@Hunnjazal: aapka sujhaav achha hai ya naheen! iska nirnaya main naheen kar pa raha. kya aap iska kaaran bata sakte ho?☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 07:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
mujhe seedheedaar suraksha hataana theek naheen lag raha hai. isse achha to seedhe prabandhak adhikaar hi le liye jaae.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 13:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
kuchh sadasya doosare prabandhakeeya kaarya naheen karna chaahate aur mukhaprushth sanpaadan mein roochi rakhate hai, prabandhako ki gairamaujoodagi mein bhi mukhaprushth sanpaadan ka kaarya suchaaroo roop se chalta rahe unke liye ye naya sadasya adhikaar banaaya gaya tha. seedheedaar suraksha hone ke kaaran varishth sampaadak mukhaprushth ke saaainche ko sanpaadit naheen kar pa rahe hai aur iski vajah se mukhaprushth sanpaadan ka kaarya bhi naheen ho raha hai. (varishth sampaadak ke dvaara) aur yahaaain baat seedheedaar suraksha hataane ke naheen kintu seedheedaar suraksha ke badle unhe svatantr rup se surakshit karne ki hai. ye svatantr surakshaastar bhi keval prabandhako ko anumati dein wala hi hoga. kintu varishth sampaadak ko inhe sanpaadit karne ka adhikaar hai. ye to pehle hi tay ho chooka hai ki prabandhako ke alaava aur sadasyo ko mukhaprushth sanpaadan ka adhikaar diya jaae.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 14:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
poorn sahamati. hindi viki mein anya prabandhak bhi banane chaahiyein. yeh har viki mein hota hai ki alag-alag prabandhak (ya sadasya) alag kaaryo mein saksham hote hain ya ruchi rakhate hain. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 16:15, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@YmKavishwar: main aapki baat se sahamat hooain. ya to yeh kar diya jaaye ya mera sujhaav hai ki keval kuchh saanchon (jaise: samaachaar, kya aap jaante hain aur chitr) ko seedheedaar suraksha se hata saamaanya suraksha(jaisa yogesh ji ne bataaya) mein kar diya jaaye. jisse varishth sampaadak bhi use sampaadit kar sakein--- chakrapaani vaarta 04:22, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@chakrapaani: ji, seedheedaar suraksha prushth ke saath joode sabhi saaainche aur maudyul par samaan tareeke se laagoo hoti hai. isliye kuchh saaaincho mein hi ye sambhav naheen hai. seedheedaara suraksha hataake mukhaprushth ke sabhi saaaincho ko svatantrarup se surakshit karna padega aur prabandhak hi ye kaarya kar sakte hai. mujhe naheen lagta kisi prabandhak ko ismein koi bhi aapatti ho sakti hai.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 07:53, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


chooainki, yeh charcha mere vaarta prushth ke havaale se shuroo hui thi aur mainne apni rai vahaan vyakt kar di thi isliye dubaara yeh kehne ki aavashyakta naheen thi. parantu yahaaain charcha ki disha dekhte hue dubaara apni baat likh raha hooain.

  1. main vyaktigat taur par seedheedaar suraksha hataane ke paksh mein bilkul naheen hooain.
  2. varishth sampaadak ko protect adhikaar dene (yeh sambhav hai ya naheen main naheen janta) ke paksh mein bhi naheen hooain.
  3. yadi varishth prabandhak ke adhikaar se mukhaprushth naheen sanpaadit ho sakta (jaisa takaneeki jaankaari rakhane vaale logon ne pehle vyakt kiya tha ki isse yeh ho jaayega) to main yahi salaah doonga ki sadasya, jinhein mukhaprushth adyatan karna hai, seedhe prabandhak daayitvon ke liye naamaankan karein.
  4. "varishth sampaadak" ka naam badal kar " saaaincha sampaadak" kiya jaaya aur yeh adhikaar un logon ko diya jaaya jo prabandhak na hote hue bhi saaainchon aur anya takaneeki prushthon ko sanpaadit karne ki yogyata rakhate hon.

yeh ek prayog tha. jo vartamaan dasha mein nishfal hua lag raha hai ki template editor mukhaprushth ka sanpaadan kar sakta hai.

agar yeh naheen sambhav hai to use jbaran karavaane ke liye mukhaprushth ki suraksha hataane ka koi auchitya naheen.

aur mainne apne vaarta prushth par bhi puchha tha, fir poochh raha hooain, isse mukhaprushth ka kaise aur kaun sa bhala hone wala hai? yeh bhi samajhaaya jaaya. --styam mishr baatcheet 08:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@satyam mishr: ji, aap prabandhak hai aur aapki rai sahi hi hogi. naye prabandhak banaaya jaae ye aur bhi achhi baat hai. shaayad uske baad mukhaprushth ki ye samasya hi na rahe. chakrapaani ji bhi kafi achha yogadaan dein rahe hai aur prabandhak banane ke liye aage badh sakte hai. ek baat mukhaprushth sanpaadan ke kaarya mein ruchi hone ki bhi hai. chakrapaani ji ismein kaafi ruchi rakhate hai isliye main unka samarthan kar raha hooain. seedheedaar suraksha ke badle saaaincho ko svatantarup se surakshit karne ka bhi mein samarthan karta hooain kyooainki isse koi bhi aapatti naheen ho sakti. suraksha bani hi rahegi. mujhe to aapatti ke liye koi kaaran naheen mil raha hai. pehle ham naye prabandhako ke kaarya ko dekhake samasya ka samaadhaan hota hai ya naheen ye bhi dekh sakte hai. baad mein bhe ye vishay par charcha ho sakti hai. mukhaprushth sanpaadan ki samasya hi na rahe to ye naye sadasya samooh ka naam badalkar mein saaaincha sampaadak rakhane ka bhi samarthan karta hooain.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 09:33, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
agar aur prabandhak ban rahein hain to suraksha badalne ki aavashyakta naheen hai, yeh sahi baat hai. lekin agar naheen bante to vikaas ke liye seedhi-badlaav chhodkar koi chaara naheen dikhta. dekhte hain ki prabandhak chunaav mein agale kuchh kaal mein kya hota hai. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 16:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

aneeta (1967 film) ka poster

aneeta (1967 film) ka poster angreji viki mein Anita 1967.jpg ke naam se hai lekin hindi viki mein naheen aa raha hai. krupaya madad karein.somesh tripaathi vaarta 09:08, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

@Somesh virgo: ji, aasha hai ki aapki samasya ka ab samaadhaan ho chuka hai.--mujmmil (vaarta) 09:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
mujmmil ji, aapka apaar dhanyavaad.somesh tripaathi vaarta 20:06, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

ank parivrtak

pata naheen kab se par ank parivrtak mujhe dikh hi naheen raha hai (vareeyataaon mein saksham hai). kya kisi aur ke saath bhi aisa hai? ya kaheen isko band kar diya gaya hai.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 14:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

pasand > upakaran (gaijet) > pradarshan upakaran > ank parivrtak, naagari aur arabi ankon mein parivartan karne ke liye ek gaijet (prayogaatmak) ⟵ aapne kaheen is dabbe ka check hata to naheen diya? --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 17:46, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
mujhe to dikh raha hai. Hunnjazal ji ki bataai jagah check karein. --styam mishr baatcheet 19:23, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
naheen dikh raha hai. check laga hua hai. kai baar hata ke aur laga ke dekha par ank parivrtak ab bhi naheen dikh raha hai.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 13:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
peeyoosh ji, mere khayaal se aap ank parivrtak ke meediyaaviki prushtho ko apne sadasya naam ke upaprushth ke rup mein bana ke deinkhale. shaayad ho jaaega. ye naye prushtho mein meediyaaviki ke sthaan par aapka sadasyanaam/ aur / ke baad meediyaaviki ka jo .js prushth hai usaka naam aayega. ye meediyaaviki prushtho par jo paath hai vah ye apne upaprushtho par kaaaipi-paist kar dijiyega. ham apne sadasya prushth ke Common.js prushth banaate hai aise hi ye banaana hai.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 13:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
mujhe kabhi dikhta hai aur kabhi naheen. aur agar dikhta hai bhi, to kaam naheen karta. (yogesh ji ki sujhaai cheej mainne karke naheen dekhi. ye karne ke baad javaab doonga.) --gaurav (vaarta) 13:41, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
yogesh ji, mainne aapka sujhaav apnaaya (sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi/Gadget-Numeral converter.js) aur saath hi apni variytaaon ko difault kar diya par fir bhi ank parivrtak naheen dikh raha.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 16:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
@hindusthaan vaasi: peeyoosh ji, mainne ise aapke common.js mein joda hai. aap mool gaijet ka check box hata kar dekhein. ise ab dikhna chaahiye. --styam mishr baatcheet 07:42, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
@hindusthaan vaasi: peeyoosh ji, satyam ne aapke common.js mein kiye badlaav ke baad ye dikhna chaahiye. aapko abhi bhi ye nahein dikhta hai to meediyaaviki:Gadget-Numeral converter.css ka paath bhi aapke common.css upaprushth mein jodna padega. uske baad to dikhna hi chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 11:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

nayi charcha

--- chakrapaani vaarta 06:33, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

prashaasak evam prabandhak hetu naye naamaankan ki aavashyakta

namaste mitro,
hindi vikipeediya par mein aaya tab 8 prabandhak the. ab 5 hi hai. kuchh prabandhak sakriya naheen hai to kuchh prabandhak kuchh khaas prakaar ke prabandhakeeya kaarya mein hi bhaag lete hai aur kuchh lete hi naheen. mujhe lagta hai hamein aur sakriya evam yogya sadasyo ko prabandhak ke rup mein padonnit karna chahiye. pratham adhikaar teen maah, fir chh maah aur uske baad kaayami prabandhak adhikaar milega. tab tak naye prabandhak peedh ho jaaeainge. bhaarateeya mool ki bhaashaao mein hamaara hindi vikipeedeeya sab se bada viki hai kintu filhaal hamaare paas prashaasak ek bhi naheen hai. apitu hamein baar-baar maita-viki par jaana padta hai. hindi viki mein prashaasak hone heen chaahiye. prashaasak hetu kam se kam 25 maton ki aavashyakta hoti hai. ham ye kar sakte hai. na ho sake to 7 din ke badle matadaan aage bhi badhaaya ja sakta hai. sabhi sadasyon se vinti hai ki apni rai dein. dhanyavaad.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 12:59, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

shuroo mein teen maheenein prabandhak banaane wala sujhaav mujhe achha lag raha hai. isse prabandhak sankhya badhegi aur ham tay bhi kar paaenge ki kaun prabandhakeeya kaarya karne mein saksham hai.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 16:17, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan bahut achha sujhaav hai. --Hunnjazal (vaarta) 16:34, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan yeh sujhaav bahut achha hai.--mujmmil (vaarta) 16:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan - main praarambh se hi is paksh mein raha hooain. mera bas chale to un samast sadasyon ko prabandhakeeya adhikaar de dene chaahiyen jinki vishvasaneeyata sthaapit ho chuki hai, jo puraane ho gaye hain aur jinke baare mein ham log aashvast hain ki ve viki ka nuksaan naheen kareinge. yadi durupayog paaya jaae, tabhi unase adhikaar chheena jaae. prashaasak ke liye bhi bahut samay se prayaas chal rahe hain lekin safal naheen hue. par dobaara prayaas karna bhi aavashyak hai. shubhakaamanaaeain.--manoj khuraana 17:20, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan kaafi achha sujhaav. khaaskar kam se kam ek prashaasak to hona hi chaahiye hindi viki par. --- chakrapaani vaarta 04:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
dhanyavaad manoj ji, Hunnjazal ji, peeyoosh ji, mujmmil ji, chakrapaani ji. manoj ji aapka ye hakaaraatmak abhigm preranaadaayi hai. kabhi aisa hota hai ki sadasya apne vyaktigat matabhedo ko jodkar kuchh sadasyo ka virodh karte hai. hamein isabaar aapasi matabhedo ko bhoolakar hakaaraatmakata ke saath ekajut hokar matadaan karna hai. main kuchh naamaankan karna chaahooainga aur ichhuk yogyata praapt sadasya khudaka aur doosare sadasyo ka bhi naamaankan kar sakte hai. prashaasak ke liye sanjeev ji suyogya hai. hamein doosare sadasyo ko prabandhanakaarya ke liye taaleemabaddh bhi karna hoga. pratham teen maah ke liye adhikaar dena chaahiye aur sadasya prabandhakeeya kaaryo mein praveen hone ke baad sthaayi adhikaar milna chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 05:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan bahut hi achha sujhaav hai . --Ashoka Chakra.svgraajoo suthaar 'svatantr'vaarta 06:39, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

tippani

  • sujhaav achha hai lekin mainne hindi vikipeediya par pichhle chaar varshon mein aisa koi matadaan naheen dekha jismein 25 logon ne matadaan kiya hai. haaain yeh sankhya 12-13 tak jaroor pahuainchi hai.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 17:44, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
sanjeev ji aapki baat sahi hai kintu main poora prayaas karna chaahooainga. jaroorat padne par sadasyo ko vyaktigat sandesh bhejkar matadaan ke liye aamantrit kiya jaaega aur chaupaal evam doosare hindi prakalpo par bhi matadaan ki ghoshana kar di jaaegi. doosare sadasya bhi ekadoosare ko matadaan ke liye aamantrit kareinge. jaroorat padne par matadaan ek saptaah aur aage badhaaya jaaega. 400 sakriya sadasyo mein 25 mat naamumkin naheen hai.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 05:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
yeh jaroori aur svaagatayogya kadam hai.--maala chaubevaarta 08:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
mujhe lagta hai ki ismein do bilkul bhinn muddon ko mila diya gaya hai. prashaasak se sambandhit prastaav alag hona chaahiye aur prabandhak se sambandhit alag.--anunaad Singh (vaarta) 04:19, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

svat: pareekshit adhikaar hataana

doston, main yahaaain vikipeediya:svat: pareekshit adhikaar hetu nivedan par diye gaye nivruti niyam ke tahat in sadasyon se ye adhikaar hataane ka prabandhakon se nivedan karta hooain.

  • lagaataar ek varsh tak 25 se kam sakaaraatmak sampaadan
  1. Sumit sinha (vaarta yogadaan) November 2014 se sirf 2 sampaadan
  2. maneesh vashishth (vaarta yogadaan) December 2013 se sirf 5 sampaadan (2014 ke baad ek bhi naheen)
  3. Sudhir kumar garhwal (vaarta yogadaan) October 2013 se sirf 6 sampaadan (2014 ke baad ek bhi naheen)
  4. Rahul kaushik (vaarta yogadaan) November 2013 ke baad se koi sampaadan naheen
  5. Rahul07 (vaarta yogadaan) March 2013 se sirf 6 sampaadan
  6. Dinesh smita (vaarta yogadaan) December 2014 se sirf 13 sampaadan
  7. Hemant wikikosh (vaarta yogadaan) January 2014 ke baad se koi sampaadan naheen
  8. Hemant Shesh (vaarta yogadaan) March 2015 se sirf 8 sampaadan
  9. Krishna Kumar Mishra (vaarta yogadaan) November 2014 se sirf 21 sampaadan
  10. Krantmlverma (vaarta yogadaan) March 2015 se sirf 2 sampaadan
  • apne adhikaar ka durupayog karna
  1. Jeeteshvaishya (vaarta yogadaan)

inhonne ye adhikaar praapt kar gair-ullekhaneeya lekh upayog ki sharton ke ullanghan mein banaae. dekhein

--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 14:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

uparokt mein Dinesh smita ko chhodkar anya sabhi logon ko svat: pareekshit adhikaar se hata diya gaya hai. Jeeteshvaishya par charcha prabandhak soochanaapat par chal rahi hai. yadi anya prabandhakon ko uchit lage to mere uparokt badlaavon mein anya nirnaya lene ke liye svatantr hain.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 17:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
is adhikaar se mukt karne ke liye niymaavali kahaaain hai?--styam mishr baatcheet 09:06, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

{{saankhyikeeya aarekh}}

krupaya sadasya dekh kar bataae kya is saaainche mein jo lekh hai unamein sudhaar kiya ja sakta hai, mujhe to ye ullekhaneeya naheen lagte aur inhein hata dena chaahiye.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 15:38, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

kuchh ka sudhaar to avashya sambhav hai. en:Template:Statistics mein dekhein. kai graafon ke baare mein lekh hain. haaain, hindi viki par ise kisi bhoogol vaale ne banaaya hai, at: ve graaf yahaaain varnit hain jinhein bhoogol vaale istemaal karte hain.--styam mishr baatcheet 09:10, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
peeyoosh ji is saaainche ke kuchh lekhon mein mainne kuchh maamooli sudhaar karne ki koshish ki aur inmein se jo angreji viki par mile unhein vikideta par jod diya hai. jinke baare mein angreji viki par lekh naheen hain ve bhi anullekhaneeya naheen hain. samay milne par main inhein badhaane aur inmein paryaapt sandarbh jodne ki koshish karooainga. yaad dilaate rahiyega :) --styam mishr baatcheet 18:24, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

prashaasak ke liye naamaankan

hamaara hindi vikipeedeeya bhaarateeya mool ki bhaashaao mein sabse bada viki hai kintu filhaal hamaare paas prashaasak ek bhi naheen hai. kam-se-kam ek prashaasak to hone hi chaahiye. maine charcha ke baad vikipeediya:prashaasak pad hetu nivedan#sadasya:sanjeev Kumar prushth par sanjeev ji ka naamaankan kiya hai. sabhi prabandhak evam sadasyo se vinti hai ki agar hamein hindi vikipeediya par prashaasak banaane hai to bhaari maatra mein matadaan karein, anyatha 25 se jyaada mat milne par ye naamaankan safal ho jaaega. hamein ek baar hi ye karna hai pashchaat hamein sthaayi prashaasak mil jaaeainge. sabhi sadasya doosare sakriya sadasyo ko bhi matadaan karne ke liye kahe aur ye naamaankan ko safal banaane mein sahayog dein. dhanyavaad.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:17, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@YmKavishwar: mujhe sanjeev ji ki sveekruti ka intajaar hai uske baad hi main apna mat doonga. --- chakrapaani vaarta 09:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
sanjeev jeene kuchh maah sakriya rah paane ki akshamata ke kaaranavash abhi ye adhikaar ke liye apni sveekruti pradaan naheen ki isliye yeh naamaankan vaapas samjha jaaega.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 00:24, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

prabandhak hetu naamaankan

vi:prabandhak pad hetu nivedan par 4 sadasyon (Sfic,mujmmil,chakrapaani va yogesh kaveeshvar)ko is pad le liye chune jaane hetu matadaan kiya ja raha hai. krupaya apna mat avashya dein. --- chakrapaani vaarta 14:23, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

main in naamaankanon par mera mat dene se poorv kuchh prashn kar raha hooain. yadi sambhav ho to krupaya (sambandhit sadasya) uttar dein:
  • Sfic ji ne apna naamaankan vaapas le liya hai at: unase kisi tarah ka koi prashn naheen hai.
  • mujmmil ji, aapne apne naamaankan par kuchh blog ka sandarbh diya hai aur kuchh poorv naamaankan ke baare mein likha hai. lekin main yeh naheen samajh pa raha hooain ki aapki prabandhak banane mein itni ruchi kyon hai? iske pehle aap is kaaran se prabandhak banane mein ruchi dikhaate aaye ho ki anya prabandhak chhutti par hain lekin vartamaan mein Hunnjazal ji, maala ji aur satyam ji jaise saksham prabandhak sakriya hain aur koi bhi aisa kaarya adhoora naheen dikhaai de raha jo keval prabandhak kar sakte hain.
  • chakrapaani ji, aapka kaarya saraahaneeya raha hai lekin aapne niyamon ko padhne se pehle hi apni sveekruti pradaan kar di. niymaavali ke anusaar aapko punareekshak kaaryon ka paryaapt anubhav hona chaahiye lekin aapke paas iska anubhav shoonya hai. aisa kyon? kya aap prabandhak banane ke baad bhi niymaavali ko anadekha karna pasand karoge?
  • yogesh ji, aapne vikisookti par saraahaneeya kaarya karne ka prayaas kiya hai lekin saathi sadasyon (yogadaanakarttaaon) ki bhaari kami ke kaaran bahut adhik kaarya naheen kar paaye. lekin hindi vikipeediya par aapne ek bhi aisa kaarya naheen likha jo keval prabandhak kar sakte hon. to aap yeh adhikaar kyon chaahate ho? vaise teen maah ke liye aapko yeh adhikaar dene mein mujhe koi aitaraaj naheen hai.
sadasyon se anurodh hai ki ise mere vyaktigat prashn samajhakar uttar dein. main yahaaain bahas naheen karna chaahata at: yadi anya sadasya bhi is tarah ke prashn chaahate hain to sambandhit sadasyon ke vaarta prushthon par charcha karein.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 19:22, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
sanjeev ji, "itni ruchi" ka to koi prashn hi naheen. "ruchi" ho sakti hai. blog, aautreech, veediyoj, aadi keval "ruchi" ya hindi vikipeediya se jude hone ko dikhaate hain. ab rahi baat ki koi inke aadhaar par samarthan ya isi aadhaar par virodh karna hi chaahe, main un sadasyon ka bhi utana hi svaagat karooainga jitna ki samarthan karne vaalon ka. main shri manoj khuraana ji ke prati aabhaar vyakt karna chaahooainga jinhonne hindi vikipeediya par mujhe praapt ek-maatr baarn-star diya tha. iska kya yeh arth hai ki shaayad mainne hindi vikipeediya koi sakaaraatmak yogadaan kiya hi naheen? dhanyavaad!--mujmmil (vaarta) 20:37, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
mujmmil ji, baarnastaar saamaanyat: sadasyon ka pyaar hota hai. kai baar kuchh sadasya ajnyaaanataavash bhi logon ko baarnastaar naheen dete hain at: baarnastaar kisi ke yogadaan ka parichaayak naheen hai. baarnastaar adhik hone ka yeh taatparya kabhi naheen hai ki sambandhit sadasya ne bahut achha yogadaan diya hai lekin itna jaroor hai ki utane sadasyon ne aapke kaarya ko dekha hai aur pasand bhi kiya hai. mainne yadi aapko baarnastaar naheen diya, iska arth yeh bhi ho sakta hai ki mainne kabhi aapke kaarya ki taraf dhyaan hi naheen diya ho. jo bhi ho, aapne mere prashn ka uttar naheen diya.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 20:50, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
pichhle anubhav ke aadhaar par main ek baat achhi tarah se samajh gaya hooain ki yahaaain ek nakaaraatmak vote ke prabhaav ko door karne chaar logon ke samarthan chaahiye. at: yadi koi aur mere viruddh vote kare to prakriya mein badi rukaavat aa jaaegi. isliye main parinaam ke baare mein shaayad mere kuchh nae mitron ki tarah chintit naheen hooain. haaainn yadi yeh naamaaainkan safal ho to sambhav hai ki aavashyakta ke anuroop main bhi prabandhakeeya daayitv nibhaaooainga. jahaaain tak kitne prabandhak hone chaahiye, to iske liye esperaanto ke ek prashaasak se liye gaye interview ka main havaala dena chaahooainga: "...Esperanto-Wikipedia which has several hundred active contributors, 18 administrators and 3 bureaucrats" at: hamein sadasya sankhya ke badhne ke prayaason aur unki sahaayata ke liye aur aur prabandhakon ki aavashyakta zaroor padegi. yaad rahe ki kraaist vishvavidyaalaya ki pariyojana ke pehle charan mein main swayam kai sau vidyaarthiyon ko hindi vikipeediya par la paaya tha. --mujmmil (vaarta) 21:11, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
@sanjeev Kumar: ji, main hindi vikipeediya par prabandhan kaarya mein sahayog karna chaahata hooain. hindi vikisookti par mere prabandhakeeya kaaryo se aap parichit hai likin vaha yogadaanakartaao ki bhaari kami ke kaaran baad mein koi bhi prabandhakeeya kaarya naheen bachega. main abhi vaha tvinkal se joode saaainche aayaat karke unhe vikisookti yogya banaana, shaaairtakat sthaapit karna jaise kaarya poorn karne ke baad vaha ye adhikaar aage badhaana naheen chaahata. hindi viki par main prabandhakeeya kaaryo mein sakriya yogadaan dena chaahata hooain. alag-alag adhikaar lene ke badle main sabhi kaarya ek saath karna chaahata hooain.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 00:19, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
@sanjeev Kumar:

paryaapt ki koi seema ya maap vahaan bataaya naheen gaya hai (paryaapt shabd ka vahaan prayog hi naheen hai keval itna likha hai ki anubhav hona chaahiye) khair main jo kar paaya vo prastut hai.

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mujhe lagta ki aapka yeh kehna ki aapka anubhav shoonya hai yeh galat va sheeghrata mein likha gaya lagta hai. vikipeediya ke sansthaapak Jimmy vels ke anusaar:

main yeh kehna chaahata hooain ki sis-op banana *koi bahut badi baat naheen hai*.

mera maanana hai ki main un logo ko yeh adhikaar doonga jo ki kuchh samay se yahaaain sakriya hai. main prabandhak shabd ke hauve ko samaapt karna chaahata hooain. yeh to keval takaneeki baat hai ki kisi ko yahaaain ke kuchh mukhya takaneeki kaarya karne ke liye chuna gaya, sabhi ko naheen.

main naheen chaahata ki koi soche ki prabandhak pad koi vishesh tamaga hai.

--- chakrapaani vaarta 03:54, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

chakrapaani ji, aapne antim panktiyaaain bilkul sahi likhi hain ki prabandhak bananana koi hauva naheen hai. main bhi chaahata hooain ki aap log prabandhak bano. lekin mainne keval niymaavali ke anusaar likha hai. kisi galat sampaadan ko hataana aur punareekshan kaarya mein antar hai. mainne jaldabaaji mein kuchh naheen likha. jab main punareekshan kaarya karta hooain to mujhe un sabhi sampaadanon se hokar gujarana padta hai jinko aapne hata diya hai lekin yadi aap punareekshak ke roop mein yeh kaarya karte ho to mujhe un sampaadanon se hokar naheen gujarana padta. aapko yadi 1 maah ke liye punareekshan adhikaar de diya jaaye (jiske liye mainne aapke varishth sampaadak naamaankan par bhi likha tha) to aapko bahut aisi baatein pata chal jaayeingi jo keval punareekshak athva prabandhak jaante hain.
yogesh ji, mera kisi sadasya se koi vyaktigat virodh naheen hai. lekin mera vyaktigat taur par maanana hai ki sabhi kaaryon ko ekasaath karne ke sthaan par keval upalabdh sthaanon par bharpoor kaarya karna uchit hai. mainne bhi vikisookti, vikitaab aur vikshanari par asthaayi prabandhak ke roop mein kaarya kiya lekin vahaaain na hi to main apne kaarya se santusht tha aur na hi adhik samay de paata tha. at: mainne vahaaain apne prabandhakeeya kaaryakaal ko aage naheen badhaaya.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 12:45, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

yathaadrushya sanpaadika (vhijyooal edeetar) fidbaik

sadasya:Sanjeev kumar detail Wikipedia, sadasya:chandra shekhar, sadasya:Prashanttiwari123 aur hindi vikipeediya sadasya


namaste,

bhaarateeya bhaashaai vikipeediyaame yathaadrushya sanpaadika (vhijyooal edeetar) sanpaadan suvidha upalabdh hue lagbhag teen mahine beet chuke hai aur 3 hajaar ke upar sanpaadan ho chuke hai. hindi vikipeediyaapar jo log yathaadrushya sanpaadika (vhijyooal edeetar) ka prayog kararahe hai unke anubhavo ke baare me jaanana chaahata hun .

aap sabhi ke fidbaik ke liye aabhaar.


Mahitgar (vaarta) 08:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

  • suvidha yeh bahut achhi hai lekin lipyantaran upalabdh naheen hai aur isliye hindi mein likhna bahut mushkil hai. --chandra shekhar/Shekhar 10:55, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

maine yathaadrushya sanpaadika upayog karte huve hindi vikipeediyaaki lipyantaran pranaali ka prayog to kiya hai. aap opareteeng sisteem aur braaoojar kaunasa prayog karte hai ? kya chandra shekharaji jaisi samasya aur kisi ko aa rahi hai ?

Mahitgar (vaarta) 08:13, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

  • @Mahitgar: ji, ab yeh samasya naheen hai, yeh pehle aati thi lgabhag 2 maheene pehle. mainne kaafi samay ke baad viki par dobaara sakriya hua hooain to puraana anubhav likh diya tha. mainne pun: pramaanit karne par paaya ki aisi koi samasya ab naheen hai. dhanyavaad. --chandra shekhar/Shekhar 08:48, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

vo kaun thi (1964 film) ka poster

krupaya vo kaun thi (1964 film) ka poster lagaane mein sahaayata karein. dhanyavaad.somesh tripaathi vaarta 20:08, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

@Somesh virgo: ji, kaarya YesY poorn hua--mujmmil (vaarta) 20:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
mujmmil ji, dhanyavaad.somesh tripaathi vaarta 14:40, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

sameeksha ki jaroorat vaale lekh

sadasya krupaya vishesh:chhote_prushth dekhein aur inke punareekshan mein sahaayata karein. inmein se kuchh lekhon ko uchit lekh par punarnirdeshit karne ki jaroorat hai, kuchh ko vistaar aur jabki kuchh mere vichaar se hataane yogya hai jaise ki, ‎araabart 1, ‎amaalkam 4, ‎amaalkam 2, kaanstantain 3, aadi. is prakaar ke lekh lagbhag 9 saal pehle (2006 mein) banaaye gaye the. jo sab Britain ke shaasak lekh ke upar punarnirdeshan ka kaam kar rahe hain.--peeyoosh sadasya:hindusthaan vaasi (vaarta) 17:21, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

vikismmelan Bhaarat 2016 hetu chhaatravrutti ke liye aavedan karein

namaskaar,

vikismmelan Bhaarat 2016 ka aayojan 5,6, 7 August 2016 ko Chandigarh mein kiya ja raha hai

vikismmelan Bhaarat 2016 hetu chhaatravrutti ke liye aavedan 31 May 2016 tak kiye ja sakte hain.

aavedan evam chayan hetu niyam/prakiyaaon ki adhik jaankaari dekhne ke liye yahaaain klik karein. aavedan karne ke liye yahaaain klik karke aavedan-patra bharein.

dhanyavaad.

--satadeep gil (vaarta) 18:33, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

vikismmelan Bhaarat 2016 team

Ethnic Groups ke liye hindi shabdaavali

kisi ne shreni:Bhaarat mein jaateeya samooh, shreni:Nepal mein jaateeya samooh, shreni:bhootaan mein jaateeya samooh jaise naamon se shreniyaaain nirmit ki hain. shreni:Bhaarat mein jaateeya samooh ke samakaksh hindi viki par shreni:Bhaarat ki maanav jaatiyaaain pehle se maujood hai. hamaare yahaaain lekh en:Ethnic groups ke sangat lekh jaateeya samooh hai aur maanav jaatiyaaain usapar anupreshit hai. inmein ekaroopata hetu kya kiya jaaya? krupaya apne vichaar rakhein. dhanyavaad ! --styam mishr baatcheet 21:33, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

jo uchit lage vo kar diya jaaye. mujhe to jyaada jaankaari naheen hai aise shabdon ke tulya hindi shabdon ki.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 17:48, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

punareekshak daayitv hetu naamaankan

hamaare viki par punareekshak kaarya karanevaale ki aavashyakta par prabandhak naamaankan mein prabandhak shri satyam ji ki tippani ke baad maine ye kaarya mein sakriya sahayog hetu vikipeediya:punareekshak pad hetu nivedan par mera naamaankan kiya hai. apna mat avashya dein.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:38, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

A new "Welcome" dialog

Hello everyone. Apologies for using English on this page. Please help translate to your language. dhanyavaad!

This is a heads-up about a change which has just been announced in Tech News: Add the "welcome" dialog (with button to switch) to the wikitext editor.

In a nutshell, later this week this will provide a one-time "Welcome" message in the wikitext editor which explains that anyone can edit, and every improvement helps. The user can then start editing in the wikitext editor right away, or switch to the visual editor. (This is the equivalent of an already existing welcome message for visual editor users, which suggests the option to switch to the wikitext editor. If you have already seen this dialog in the visual editor, you will not see the new one in the wikitext editor.)

  • I want to make sure that, although users will see this dialog only once, they can read it in their language as much as possible. Please read the instructions if you can help with that.
  • I also want to underline that the dialog does not change in any way current site-wide and personal configurations of the visual editor. Nothing changes permanently for users who chose to hide the visual editor in their Preferences or for those who don't use it anyway, or for wikis where it's still a Beta Feature, or for wikis where certain groups of users don't get the visual editor tab, etc.
    • There is a slight chance that you see a few more questions than usual about the visual editor. Please refer people to the documentation or to the feedback page, and feel free to ping me if you have questions too!
  • Finally, I want to acknowledge that, while not everyone will see that dialog, many of you will; if you're reading this you are likely not the intended recipients of that one-time dialog, so you may be confused or annoyed by it—aaand if this is the case, I'm truly sorry about that. This message also avoids that you have to explain the same thing over and over again—aajust point to this section. Please feel free to cross-post this message at other venues on this wiki if you think it will help avoid that users feel caught by surprise by this change.

If you want to learn more, please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133800; if you have feedback or think you need to report a bug with the dialog, you can post in that task (or at mediawiki.org if you prefer).

Thanks for your attention and happy editing, Elitre (WMF) 17:00, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

madad keejiye

sklaitar monaal

sklaitar monaal prushth mein taxobox tatha shuru mein jo bold mein sklaitar monaal likha hai usamein sudhaar ki aavashyakta hai. dhanyavaad.somesh tripaathi vaarta 14:52, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

YesY poorn hua-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 16:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
yogesh kaveeshvar ji, dhanyavaad.somesh tripaathi vaarta 14:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

BBC hindi par vikipeediya ke baare mein jaankaari

krupaya yeh lekh padhein.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 06:08, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

unhein ye pata naheen hain ki yahaaain pratyek sanpaadan ki jaaainch hoti hai aur bina sandarbh se jodi gayi tathyaatmak jaankaari ko vaapas kiya jaata hai, jaankaari ke saath vishvasaneeya sandarbh bhi jodna hota hai. kaafi logo mein yaheen maanyata hai ki vikipeediya ki jaankaari vishvasaniya naheen hoti knyaooainki inhe koi bhi sanpaadit karta hai. logo ki ye glatafhami door karne ke liye hamein he aage aana chhahiye aur samayaantar pvikipediya ke baare mein lekh taiyaar karke vartamaanapatro, saamaayiko ko bhejane chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 06:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

aur ho sake to hindi vikipeediya par bahusankhyak srot-sandarbh aur inalaain uddharan rahit lekhon par chintan karein. --styam mishr baatcheet 06:27, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

yogesh ji, ye vikipeediya ka bhi kehna hai ki jaankaari ka vishvasaneeya hona aavashyak naheen. kyonki bahut jagah sampaadanon ki jaaainch mein kaafi deri ho jaati hai. iske atirikt BBC par ek aur bhi lekh prakaashit hua hai jo yahaaain par dekha ja sakta hai. lekin jaisa satyam ji ne kaha, yahaaain sandarbharahit jaankaari naheen jodni chaahiye aur yahaaain apna mool shodh bhi naheen jodna chaahiye.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 06:55, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
ji bilkul,hamein ye baat pe dhyaan dena chaahiye. ek yelekh bhi achha hai. shaayad teeno ke lekhak alag ho sakte hai. vikipeediya khud vishvasaneeyata ka daava naheen karta par beshak vikipeediyn saamagri ko vishvasaneeya banaane ka prayaas karte hai. hamein satyam ji aur sanjeev jeeke sujhaav ko shabdash: apanaana chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 07:53, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
yeh sarvamaanya hai ki vikipeediya ki jaankaari vishvasaniya naheen hoti kyonki ise koi bhi sanpaadit kar sakta hai. iske vipreet aaj jeetne bhi samaachaar channel hain ve vikipeediya ke lekhon ka havaala dekar heen vishvasaneeya jaanakaariyaaain darshakon ko parosate rahe hain. khaaskar ji news par sudheer chaudhari ka DNA poori tarah vikipeediya ke aankadon par hi nirbhar hota hain. vaise bhi bina sandarbh se jodi gayi tathyaatmak jaanakaariyaaain jaanchoparaant vikipeediya se hata di jaati hai. haaain kabhi -kabhi sampaadanon ki jaaainch mein deri avashya ho jaati hai. jahaan tak hindi vikipeediya ka prashn hai to jabatak kushal sampaadkon ki sankhya mein aashaateet vruddhi naheen hoti tabatak avarodh ki sthiti bani rahegi. abatak ke anubhavon mein mainne jo mahasoos kiya hai vah yeh hai ki yahaaain ke maahaul se pareshaan hokar kuchh achhe sampaadak ya to vikipeediya chhodkar chale jaate hain ya fir unhein raaste se hata diya jaata hai. isse bhi lekhon ki gunavatta par asar pada hai. hamein kushal sampaadkon ki sankhya badhaane ka saamoohik prayatn karna chaahiye. vaise main satyam ji ke vichaaron se ittifaak rakhati hooain ki yahaaain sandarbharahit jaankaari aur apna mool shodh naheen jodna chaahiye. sanjeev ji ham sabke beech ek sarvamaanya, yogya aur kushal prabandhak hain. ve chaahein to nae sampaadkon ki shiksha-deeksha se sambandhit ek saamoohik blog ka hindi mein nirmaan kar sakte hain jispar hamaare anubhavi sanpaadakagan apne lekh prakaashit kar sakein.--maala chaubevaarta 09:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
aapka ye hindi viki ke blog ka sujaav bahot hi achha hai. hamein isape turant amal karna chaahiye.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 10:48, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@Mala chaubey: ji aapka yeh blog wala vichaar bahut hi achha hai agar is par charcha ki jaaya to bahut achha rahega .--Ashoka Chakra.svgraajoo suthaar 'svatantr'vaarta 12:26, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
July ke baad ispar vichaar kar sakta hooain. vaise satyam ji, mujhse adhik kushal hain. ek samay tha jab satyam ji mujhse chhoti-chhoti baatein sikhne ka prayaas karte the lekin aaj main unase sikhne lag gaya hooain.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 18:56, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@sanjeev Kumar aur satyam mishr: omg wasnt i SHOUTING about it for a long time....add neutral references....add neutral citations....and you guys blocked me for making valid demands....lol....funny eh mate that you realised it now that i was right....better late than being sorry....BAAHAHA...Sperm whale fluke.jpg Darth Whale vaarta 19:26, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
maine dekha hai ki kuchh samay se satyam ji badal gaye hai. praarambh mein main unki sakaaraatmak soch ka anubhav kar chuka hooain aur isse prabhaavit bhi tha. tab satyam ji mere aadarsh the. mujhe unase kaafi kuchh sikhne bhi mila hai aur abhi bhi vah itne kushal prabandhak hai ki unase bahot kuchh seekhane ko mil sakta hai. thode samay se vah kuchh pareshaan hai ya anya aur kisi vajah se vah nakaaraatmak ban gaye hai aur tatasth drashtikon ke saath sakaaraatmak valan dikhna chaahiye vah naheen dikhaai de raha hai. usane upar ek charcha mein kaha tha ki 'jo sadasya mukhaprushth sanpaadan karna chaahate hai use prabandhak adhikaar ke liye naamaankan karna chaahiye', naamaankan mein usane hi sadasya ka ye keh ke virodh kiya ki mukhaprushth sanpaadan ke liye ye adhikaar naheen lena chaahiye. mujhe ek jagah kaha ki aapko punareekshan karna chaahiye aur ek jagah kaha ki naheen karna chaahiye! humne chaupaal pe charcha ki thi naye prabandhak banaae jaaenge. pehle 8 prabandhak the ab 6 hi hai. satyam ji dvaara sabhi naamaankan mein virodh kiya gaya aur safal naheen ho paaya. unase pehle naye prabandhako ke naamaankan ke baad satyam ji ne meta par hindi vikipeediya par apne (unke khudake) prabandhak adhikaar hataane hetu naamaankan kiya tha. tab maine hi use rokane ki koshish ki thi aur sanjeev ji ko bhi bataaya tha. sanjeev ji ke samajhaane ke baad satyam ji ne ye vaapas le liya tha. kushal prabandhak ka abhigm sakaaraatmak hona chaahiye. mujhe bilkul pata naheen tha ki hindi viki par esa chal raha hai aur kushal sadasyo ko aage badhne naheen diya jaata. koi na koi kiseeki taaaing khichne mein laga hai. sakhed.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:16, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

CIS-A2K April 2016 Newsletter

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Hello,
CIS-A2K has published their April 2016 newsletter. The edition includes details about these topics:

  1. Edit-a-thon organised at Christ University, Bangalore to celebrate Women's Day;
  2. Celebrating the 13th anniversary of Kannada Wikipedia;
  3. Odia-language Women's History Month edit-a-thons;
  4. Upcoming 14th birth anniversary of Odia Wikipedia;

Please read the complete newsletter here.
If you want to subscribe/unsubscibe this newsletter, click here. --MediaWiki message delivery (vaarta) 12:41, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Train-the-Trainer 2016: Event details and invitation to apply

Greetings from CIS-A2K,

It gives us great pleasure to inform that the Train-the-Trainer 2016 programme organised by CIS-A2K is going to be held from 15-17 June, Bangalore.

Train-the-Trainer programme was conceptualised in order to bridge the gap between wiki volunteers/enthusiasts who would like to conduct off reach activities and have been discouraged due to non availability of resources and support. The three day residential event will include presentations by the participants regarding a plan to improve their wiki-projects, expert sessions about conducting effective outreach activities, best practices from the global wiki communities, revised grant structure of WMF, activities to understand WMF strategy and vision, understanding global metrics and coming up with a concrete plan by participants in association with A2K to improve their wiki-projects.

A2K invites Wikimedians to apply for this programme. Participants will be selected based on their on wiki and off wiki activities and their responses to the questions asked in the Google form. Selected participants are required to finish pre-work assigned to them without fail. Please fill the Google form given below and write to us at tanveer@cis-india.org, tito@cis-india.org and rahim@cis-india.org for more details.

Regards, --MediaWiki message delivery (vaarta) 18:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Apologies, the dates for Train-the-Trainer 2016 have slightly been changed (we have made changes in the message above), the event will be held on 15-17 June 2016 in Bangalore.
CIS-A2K would like to groom new leadership and sustain existing initiatives in the community. In order to fulfil this objectives, preference will be given to Wikimedians who are applying for the first time.Please fill this form if you have not done yet. Please keep on checking the event page for further updates or contact tanveer@cis-india.org, rahim@cis-india.org or me at tito@cis-india.org --Titodutta (vaarta) 09:25, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT ka upayog

kuchh lekhon mein iska upayog kiya gaya hai, jo angreji viki se anuvaad karne ke kaaran hindi viki ke lekhon mein bhi aa jaata hai. lekin isse naamon ka kram bigad jaata hai. iska udaaharan aap shreni:jeevit log par dekh sakte hain. ismein kram a-a:,k-jnya jaisa hona chaahiye tha. lekin yeh kram angreji viki ke anusaar hai. iska upayog logon ke upanaam, naam ke liye kiya jaata hai, lekin hamein is kram se shreni mein lekhon ke naamon ko rakhane ki aavashyakta naheen hai. isse shreni mein kisi ka naam khojane mein bhi pareshaani hoti hai.

shreni mein sabhi ko naam kram anusaar aasaani se mile, isliye ise sabhi lekhon se hataana chaahiye. --Sfic (vaarta) 10:11, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

angreji aksharon ko to lekhak ka mool naam likhkar hataaya ja sakta hai. meri samajh mein is saaainche ka mukhya uddeshya (angreji vikipeediya par) vyaktiyon se sambandhit shreni mein naamon ko unke pratham naam ke sthaan par upanaam ke kram rakhane ke liye kaam mein liya jaata hai.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 11:45, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
aap baaait chalaakar hata sakte hai.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 02:12, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
jeevaneeparak lekhon se ise hataaya ja sakta hai. anya lekhon mein ho sakta hai iska upayog kaheen uchit ho. iska mool uddeshya yahi hai ki lekh ke sheershak ke shurooaati hisse ki bajaay agar antim shabd se khoje jaane ki sambhaavana jyaada ho to shreneekaran mein lekh antim shabd ke anusaar shreneebaddh ho.--styam mishr baatcheet 07:30, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

guaatemaala ya gvaatemaala

☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 18:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

kya agreji ke lekh ko hindi me badalkar chadhaaya ja sakta hai

mitro mujhe aapaki sahaayata chaahiye,kya mai agreji ke kisi lekh ko hindi me anuvaad karke pun: sanpaadit kar sakta hoo? krupya,iska javaab jaldi bheje, dhanyavaad.— is ahastaaksharit sandesh ke lekhak hain -Deendyal sharma (vaartayogadaan)

@Deendyal sharma: ye vishay par pehle se lekh bana na ho to aap angreji evam kisi bhi bhaasha ke vikipeediya se lekh ka hindi mein anuvaad kar sakte hai.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 05:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

mukkebaaj mohammad Ali ka nidhan

@Gaurav561, Gopala Krishna A, Hunnjazal, Innocentbunny, Mala chaubey, Manojkhurana, Ravibirulyw20, Sfic, Sniggdha rai, Somesh Tripathi, Sushilmishra, YmKavishwar, anunaad Singh, chandra shekhar, raaju suthaar, aur satyam mishr: duniya ke mahaanatam mukkebaajon mein se ek muhammad Ali ka nidhan, pej ko update karne mein sahaayata karein va adhik saamaagri bhi jod pej ka vistaar karein. dhanyavaad.. [1]--- chakrapaani vaarta 06:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Train-the-Trainer 2016 updates

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​a​aGreetings from CIS-A2K,
List of selected participants for Train-the-Trainer 2016 has been published here.
Following criteria were followed while making the selection:

  1. On Wiki and Off Wiki participation and contribution.
  2. Not more than two participants from a language community.
  3. Application form
  4. First time participants were given preference over Wikimedians who have already participated.

Due to the incredibly large number of applications that we received it would be difficult for us to write to all applicants individually. Please write to us if there are any queries. --MediaWiki message delivery (vaarta) 12:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

naya sampaadan aujaar

naya sampaadan aujaar kuchh is tarah ka (bina badlaav ke) dikhta hai. yeh prushth sahejein aadi batan ke oopar dikhaai deta hai. abhi jo sampaadan aujaar hai usaka upayog karne ke liye thoda neeche jaana padta hai. jabki is sampaadan aujaar ka upayog karne ke liye utana neeche jaane ki aavashyakta naheen hogi. krupaya aap sabhi iska hindi viki mein upayog hetu apna mat dein. --Sfic (vaarta) 06:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Sfic ji, aapka sujhaav bahut achha hai. aise sujhaav par charcha ke sthaan par pehle laagoo karke aapko yahaaain jaankaari rakhani chaahiye thi ki aisa badlaav kiya gaya hai. jo bhi ho, mujhe lagta hai aapko iske liye aavashyak khaaka banaakar rakh lena chaahiye. samay milte hi satyam ji ise sthaapit kar deinge.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 07:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
mera poorn samarthan hai. main ise kaafi dinon se aayaat karke prayog karta aa raha hooain aur yeh kaafi suvidhaajanak hai. sabse achhi baat yeh hai ki yadi panjeekrut sadasya chaahein to ismein apni pasand ke batan keval apne vyaktigat upayog ke liye jod bhi sakte hain. seema yeh hai ki, chooainki yeh sanpaadan box theek neeche aur saaraansh aur prushth sahejane ke batanon ke oopar dikhta hai, ismein praathamik taur par rakhe jaane vaale batanon ki sankhya ko buddhimtta poorvak chunate hue do laainon mein seemit karna hoga aur baaki vikalpon ko drop daaun menoo mein rakhana hoga. --styam mishr baatcheet 07:48, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan --manoj khuraana 19:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan--yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 02:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg samarthan --- chakrapaani vaarta 06:22, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

vikipriyojana : aaj ka din

bahut samay se lagbhag har sadasya ka aisa vichaar raha hai ki angreji viki ki bhaaainti hamaare viki mukhaprushth par bhi aaj ka din jaisa ek anubhaag hona chaahiye. jahaaain paathakon mein ruchi jagaane mein iski upayogita bemisaal hai, vaheen iske liye ham sabhi ko ek hi baar kamar kasani hai, tatpashchaat din pratidin svat: hi yeh badalta rahega. isse mukhaprushth ki gatisheelata mein chaar chaaaind hi lag jaaeainge. filhaal mukhaprusht ke sabhi anubhaagon mein naamaaainkan, sameeksha aadi ki aavashyakta hoti hai aur parinaamat: jab kabhi sakriya sadasyon ka abhaav hota hai to mukhaprushth mrutapraay: sa ho jaata hai. ek aaj ka aalekh sachvat: badalta hai kintu vah bhi maatr kuchh hi lekhon ka punarchakran ban ke rah gaya hai. aise mein 365 din roj naya anubhaag svat: badalna sabhi ke liye ek utsaahavardhak ho sakta hai. is disha mein mainne pariyojana ka praarambhik praaroop taiyaar kiya hai jise maananeeya sadasya mere prayogaprutha5 par dekh sakte hain. e26 January ka ek saaaincha prayog hetu bhi banaaya hai. aapse nivedan hai ki krupaya iska avlokan karke apne sujhaav dein taaki ise ek pariyojana ke roop mein sakriya kiya ja sake.--manoj khuraana 20:05, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

mukhaprushth par "aaj ka aalekh" apna mahattv kho chuka hai kyonki aaj ka aalekh mein kuchh lekhon mein varshon se laal kadiyaaain hain aur pichhle 4 varshon mein 2 se adhik lekh aaj ka aalekh ke liye nirvaachit naheen huye. iske atirikt aaj ka aalekh mein keval bhoomika ko hi mukhya aadhaar maana gaya hai. yeh us samay ka kaarya hai jab hamaare yahaaain lekhon ki sankhya 50000 bhi naheen thi. at: mujhe lagta hai iske sthaan par manoj ji ke prastaav ke anuroop kuchh daalna uchit rahega. iske liye hamein pehle ek maah ka kaam karna padega. yadi July maah ke liye ham yeh kaam agale kuchh dinon mein karne mein saksham rahate hain to aage bhi ise badhaaya ja sakta hai. iske atirikt ismein angreji vikipeediya ke "On this day..." anubhaag ki pratilipi bhi ki ja sakti hai. usaki hubahu prati karne mein samasya rahegi kyonki utane prushth hamaare yahaaain maujood naheen hain. at: yadi sadasya apni sahamati dein to yeh kaarya karna asambhav naheen hai. sadasyon ki sahamati ke baad iski upayukt niymaavali bhi banaayi ja sakti hai.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 20:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
khuraana saahab aap bemisaal hai. aapka ye prayaas saraahaneeya hai aur mukhaprushth ke prati aapki nishtha bhi. aap ananya hai, himaalaya ke uttung shikhar ke samaan hai jo viki rupi himaalaya ko gauravaanvit kar raha hai. aapke sabhi prayaas sabhi ke liye upayogi hi hote hai aur iske peechhe ka kaaran aapki sakaaraatmak soch hai.

main bhi is pariyojana ka poorn samarthan karta hooain aur is kaarya mein yathaasanbhav-yathaashakti sahayog dene ka bhi prayaas karoonga. sanjeev ji ne bataaya iske mutaabik hamaara pratham lakshya July hona chaahiye. aap pariyojana ka prushth banaakar usame jaankaari daal dijiye taaki jyaada se jyaada sadasya isame joode aur kaise sahayog dena hai ye samajh sake. jnyaaanakosh ke liye ye pratidin ki jaanakaareeyaaain atyant hi upayogi hain. agar kisi baahya strot se hame din ke vishesh mahatva ki jaankaari mil jaae to hame kaam karne mein aur bhi aasaani hogi. shubhakaamanaaeain aur aapke kaarya prati abhivaadan.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

yogesh ji, aapne jitni prashansa kar di hai itne mein to shaayad mera kai saal ka kota poora ho gaya hai. dhanyavaad.
mujhe khushi hai ki ham sab log is sujhaav par kaam karne ke liye taiyaar hain. @satyam mishr: ji se vyaktigat taur par mera samvaad hua aur unhonne sujhaav diya hai ki hamein yeh sunishchit karna hoga ki in saaainchon mein shaamil hone vaale lekh gunavatta se paripoorn hon. aadhe adhoore lekhon vaale huk yadi inmein daale gaye to mukhaprushth ki maryaada jaati rahegi. yeh sujhaav itna mahatvapoorn hai ki iski upeksha karna sambhav naheen hai. at: is sujhaav ka upayog @sanjeev Kumar: ji ke sujhaav ke saath jodkar is prakaar kiya ja sakta hai ki har saaainche ke sanpaadan se poorv hone waali charcha va sameeksha ke niyam nirdhaarit karein. haalaaainki isse pariyojana ka kaarya kathin ho jaaega ismein sandeh naheen kintu yeh sone ko agni mein tapaakar kundan banaane jaisa hi hoga. in sabhi sujhaavon ko dekhte hue mujhe lagta hai ki is pariyojana hetu aam sahamati hi hai, at: -shubhasya sheeghram- hamein yeh kaarya sheegra aarambh karna chaahiye. main praarambhik khaaka prayogaprushth se pariyojana prushth par sthaanaantarit kar deta hooain. mera takaneeki gyaan thoda kam hai, at: main aap sabse nivedan karta hooain ki ise thoda suniyojit svaroop pradaan karne ki krupa karein. niymaavali hetu mujhe lagta hai ki Hunnjazal ji va sanjeev ji se nivedan karna theek rahega. sabhi ka haardik dhanyavaad evam shubhakaamanaaeain. --manoj khuraana 13:37, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
yogesh ji, sanjeev ji, July mein maatr kuchh hi din bache hain, at: mera prastaav hai ki kyon na 15 August ka lakshya lekar praarambh kiya jaae?--manoj khuraana 18:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
main bhi yahi soch raha tha ki sabhi lekho ka sudhaar karne ke liye paryaapt samay chaahiye. June aur July do maah hai hamaare paas kaam karne ke liye. August ko aadha chhodne ke badle 1 August se hi sharu ho jaae to achha hai. peechhale kuchh bache hue dino ka kaam August mein bhi ho paaega isliye mujhe lagta hai ki hamaare paas paryaapt samay hai. aap pariyojana ka prushth bana dijiye; niymaavali aadi ki charcha vahi pe hogi. kaun se din ka kya mahatva hai ye soochi baahya sootro se mil jaae to aur bhi saralata hogi.-yogesh kaveeshvar (vaarta) 03:03, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

@satyam mishr, sanjeev Kumar, aur Manojkhurana: mere kuchh prashn hain:

  • agar koi sadasya 1 taareek par 5 se adhik tathya daalata hai ya use lagta hai ki usaka tathya adhik mahatvapoorn hai to yeh kaise chuna jaayega ki mukhya prushth par kya dikhaaya jaaye aur kya naheen?---
  • iske tathya kis taareek se liye jaaeain arthaat kis san se kis san tak?
  • kya inki taareekhon ka pramaanit hona aavashyak hai ya prachalit taareek ko bhi maan liya ja sakta hai?
  • ek din ke keval 5 tathya pradarshit hone par baaki anya tathya to rah jaayeinge unka kya hoga?
  • pratyek varsh baar baar ye hi tathya pradashit kiye jaayeinge?
  • kya ismein pratyek varsh ya koi nishchit samay seema mein nae tathya jode jaayeinge ya naheen?

chakrapaani vaarta 08:22, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

chakrapaani ji ke prashnon ke sambhaavit uttar

  • sadasya apne naamaankan kar sakte hain lekin kaunase paaainch tathya chune jaane hain iska faisala lekhon ki gunavata, sarvasammati aur tathyon ke mahattvapoorn hone se kiya ja sakta hai.
  • hamein ismein koi kathin niyam naheen rakhana chaahiye ki kaunase san mahattvapoorn jyaada hain. vartamaan mein sabhi san samaan roop se mahattvapoorn hain.
  • prachalit din ko maanane ka koi auchitya naheen hai.
  • iske liye har dinaank se sambandhit prushth bane huye hain aur ye tathya us prushth par bhi daale jaayeinge. jaise aaj ki dinaank ke liye 11 June dekhein. arthaat usamein neeche ek kadi us dinaank ki di ja sakti hai. jismein sabhi upalabdh tathya raheinge.
  • pratyek varsh samaan tathya pradarshit hone mein koi buraai naheen hai jaise ham log apna janmadin bhi to pratyek varsh ek hi taareekh ko manaate hain!!! jab koi ghatna ek varsh baad samaan roop se ghatit hoti hai to usamein nayaapan rahata hai. iske atirikt ham uske upar ek pankti mein "aaj ke parv" bhi jod sakte hain jo alag-alag dharm, sthaan aur anya tathyon par nirbhar karte hain jo mukhyat: gregori calendar ki tithiyon ke anusaar naheen hote. at: aise tathyon ko prati varsh sampaadit kiya ja sakta hai. iska saaaincha alag se is tarah samaahit kiya ja sakta jo sambandhit koi update hone par us update ko dikhaayega anyatha svat: hi khaali rahega.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 12:32, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

@chakrapaani, sanjeev Kumar, aur satyam mishr: : chakrapaani ji ke savaal aur sanjeev ji ke javaab se ek naya samaadhaan soojha hai, kyon na har nirvaachit varshagaaainth saaainche ko us tithi ke maatruprushth par hi daal diya jaae? yaani ki kul tathya ek prushth par , usi prushth par hi unamein se 5 chune hue tathya. isse bahut suvidha ho jaaegi, saaaincha banaane mein bhi aur sameeksha mein bhi aur yadi saaainche me huk badalne ki aavashyakta mahasoos ho, to bhi. --manoj khuraana 16:11, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

lekh gunavatta hetu maapdand

vikipeediya vaarta:vikipriyojana aaj ka din par maapdand prastaavit kiye gaye hain. samarthan athva sudhaar bataayein. --styam mishr baatcheet 12:39, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

is saptaah ka sudhaar hetu lekh (saptaah 23, 2016)

namaste, chaupaal ji.

is saptaah humne sudhaar hetu nimnalikhit lekh ko chuna hai:

vikipriyojana aaj ka din


aaeain, sudhaalekh pariyojana mein shaamil hon -
manoj khuraana 09:53, 9 June 2016 (UTC) dvaara post kiya gaya • soochanaaeain band karein

Wikipedia to the Moon: voting has begun

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madad

namaste ji , @Manojkhurana, sanjeev Kumar, Mala chaubey, satyam mishr, Hindustanilanguage, Hunnjazal, Sfic, chakrapaani, YmKavishwar, anunaad Singh, aur Innocentbunny: evam anya sadasya . kya aap vikipriyojana : aaj ka din mein jo tithiyon ke hisaab se jaankaari daali ja rahi hai unamein jinke lekh naheen bane hue hai unako banaane mein madad kar sakte hai ? krupaya aap sabhi madad karein aur apni rai bhi dein , kyonki main khud bhi apni shaikshik kaaryon mein vyast rahata hooain is kaaran sabhi lekh banaana thoda kathin hai .--Ashoka Chakra.svgraajoo suthaar 'svatantr'vaarta 05:17, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

jin lekhon ki aavashyakta hai use ek jagah likhne se lekh banaane mein aasaani hoga. --Sfic (vaarta) 05:25, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
aapne sahi kaha Sfic ji , hamein ek jagah daalne chaahiye .--Ashoka Chakra.svgraajoo suthaar 'svatantr'vaarta 05:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
@raaju suthaar: ji avashya. --- chakrapaani vaarta 07:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
pariyojana galat naamasthaan par banaayi gayi hai. "vikipeediyaa_" ke sthaan par "vikipeediya" hona chaahiye. ":" se pehle khaali sthaan aane se naamasthaan galat ho gaya hai at: nirmaata se mera anurodh hai ki ":" ke donon taraf ke khaali sthaan ko hataayein aur sthaanaantaran karte samay puraane prushth se punarnidesh na chhodein.☆a★sanjeev Kumar (✉a✉) 11:42, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
shaayad aisa "sudhaalekh" mein sujhaane ke liye ise jaanaboojh kar lekh naamasthaan mein banaaya gaya hai. isliye filhaal ise aise hi rahane dete hain baad mein "vikipeediya:vikipriyojana aaj ka din" naam par sthaanaantarit kar diya jaayega. --styam mishr baatcheet 12:17, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
naheen, satyam ji, yeh galati hi hai. krupaya ise uchit sthaan par sthaanaantarit karke is samast charcha ko bhi vaheen le jaaya jaae to achha rahega. takaneeki kaaryon mein mera haath jra tang hai, at: aapse sahayog ki praarthana hai. --manoj khuraana 13:26, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

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sthaanaantaran ke baad pariyojana prushth vikipeediya:vikipriyojana aaj ka din par aur vaarta prushth vikipeediya vaarta:vikipriyojana aaj ka din par maujood hai. krupaya aage ki charchaaeain ukt vaarta prushth par yathochit nae anubhaag bana kar karein.

saaainchon ka praaroop, huk likhne ke sujhaav aur in saaainchon ke moolyaankan hetu saaaincha banaane ke baad main vaarta prushth par soochit karooainga.--styam mishr baatcheet 14:47, 11 June 2016 (UTC)