vaarta:Manmohan Singh

yeh prushth Manmohan Singh lekh ke sudhaar par charcha karne ke liye vaarta panna hai. yadi aap aap apne sandesh par jaldi sabka dhyaan chaahate hain, to yahaaain sandesh likhne ke baad chaupaal par bhi soochana chhod dein.

lekhan sambandhi neetiyaaain

da. Singh ke mahatvapoorn padaav ko ek saaaincha ke roop mein likha jaae jo skrol kar sake evam chhupa rahe, to kaafa achha hoga shaayad. --Munita Prasadvaarta 12:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

baahari kadiyaaain

is lekh ki adhikaansh baahari kadiyaaain hataane ka kaaran diya gaya hai ki vishvakosh jaankaari dene ke liye hai. yeh sahi hai. kintu keval prashansa karna ya achhi-achhi baatein hi 'jaankaari' naheen hain. aalochna aur midiyaamat ya lokamat bhi jaankaari hai.-- anunaad Singhvaarta 08:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

anunaad ji, kisne kaha ki aap "prashansa ya achhi-achhi" baaton vaale link dein. balki agar koi aise link bhi deta to meri pratikriya jab bhi yahi hoti. 'baahari kadiyaaain' anubhaag mein hamein mukhyat: un saaito ka link dena chaahiye jo apni vistrut jaankaari ya lambaai aadi kaaranavash vishisht lekh ke andar gadya roop mein naheen jodi ja sakateen. dainik samaachaarapatron mein chhapane waali khabaron ko to is anubhaag mein mukhyat: joda hi naheen jaata. har roj nae samaachaar aate hai iska matlab yeh naheen ki aap pratidin unka link yahaaain dete raheinge. aur aap isi prakaar kadiyaaain jodte hai, aap lekh ke andar saamagri kyon naheen jodte, udahaaran ke liye bhrashtaachaar se sambandhit jo bhi kadiyaaain aapne yahaaain jodi hai ve aasaani se lekh mein gadya roop mein likhi ja sakti hain. aur yeh aap aur lekhon mein bhi karte hain, jo anuchit hai. krupaya padhe ki kya-kya joda ja sakta hai. maine aapko in linkon mein di saamagri ko lekh ke andar jodne se naheen roka, aap khushi se gadya roop mein tatasth rahate hue inhein lekh mein likhein parantu vikipeediya pe apne drushtikon anuroop kadiyaaain dena bilkul anuchit hai isliye main in linkon ko hata raha hooain.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 11:13, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, aapne jo link diya hai vahaaain saaf-saaf likha hai - This guideline does not apply to links to non-English Wikipedia articles; they are added after External links according to Wikipedia:Layout. iska kya matlab hai? aap yeh diktet mat kijiye ki main kya-kya karoon? maine apna vichaar naheen joda hai. pratishthit samaachaarapatron ke vichaar jode hain. ye alpasankhyak vichaar bhi naheen hain. yahaaain kadiyon ki sankhya bhi bahut naheen hai. isaliye inhein saaf karne ka koi auchitya naheen hai. -- anunaad Singhvaarta 11:41, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
shaayad aap bhool rahein hain ki agar hindi vikipeediya pe koi niti ya dishaanirdesh naheen hote to use angreji vikipeediya ke anusaar samjha jaata hai. aur yeh hamesha se hota aaya hai. vaise bhi vahaaain di gayi jaankaari kisi bhi jnyaaanakosh par laagoo hogi. aap bina vajah baat ko tool dein rahein hain, kisi bhi jnyaaanakosh mein ja ke dekhein ki vahaaain kis prakaar ke link diye jaate hain. apni taraf se neetiyaaain na banaae agar aapko lagta hai ki aapke dvaara jode jaane waali kadiyaaain lekhon mein upayukt hoti hain to hindi vikipeediya pe "bahaari kadiyaaain" sambandit prastaav rakhein aur agar yeh prastaav paas hoke nai niti ka roop leta hai to shok se aisi kadiyaaain jode. jnyaaanakosh chaahe angreji ka hon ya hindi ka mool baate naheen badalateen aur aap apni marji se apne drushtikon anusaar link naheen de sakte. aap jaise link lagaate hai use angreji mein ham cherry picking kehte hain. aur yeh main bahut se lekhon mein dekh chuka hooain, vikipeediya koi samaachaarapatr naheen hai ki aap yahaaain "pratishthit samaachaarapatron" ke vichaar jode, aap in vichaaron ka prayog karke gadya roop mein jaankaari de sakte hain. jab tak aap hindi vikipeediya pe "bahaari kadiyaaain" dene sambandhi prastaav paas na kara lein tab tak krupaya in linkon ko vaapas na jode, dhyanyavaad.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 03:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, krupaya galat link dekar logon ka samay barbaad na karein. 'cheri piking' ka naam le lene se aap angreji ke vidvaan naheen ho gaye. (aapke angreji gyaan ke star par aapko poorv mein kai baar aaina dikhaaya ja chuka hai.) sabse pehle to aap 'hantar wala' na baniye. kisi par vyaktigat aakshep mat keejiye. is lekh mein kuchh hataane ke pehle aapko charcha karni thi. charcha par mataikya hone ke baad hataane ka kadam uthaana theek hota. isaliye un linkon ko poorvasthiti mein bane rahane deejiye aur saumya bhaasha mein charcha jaari rakhiye. aap yeh to maan gaye ki aapne jo link di hai vah hindi par laagoo naheen hoti. ab yeh maan bhi lein ki us link mein jo kuchh likha hai usaki bhaavana ka aadar kiya jaana chaahiye to krupaya saaf-saaf bataaen ki mere dvaara jode gaye link us lekh mein likhe kis dishaanirdesh ka ulanghan karte hain.
-- anunaad Singhvaarta 04:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, maamooli si khojabeen karne par pata chal raha hai ki angreji viki mein jeevit vyaktiyon ke 'baahari kadiyon' mein samaachaar-patron mein chhape samaachaaron ke link diye gaye hain. de dekhiye-

kya ab bhi aap puraane vichaar par kaayam hain?
-- anunaad Singhvaarta 09:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

anunaad ji, sarvapratham aapse anurodh karooainga ki hamesha ki tarah vyaktagit hamle karne se bachein. maine yeh kabhi naheen kaha hai ki main angreji ka vidvaan hooain maine bas ek frej udahaaran ke taur pe di thi. main in baaton ko likhna pasand naheen karna parantu jab bhi ek baar sun lein agar meri angreji ki itni bekaar haalat hoti to angreji viki pe main 5 feechard list, 5 gud aur 26 dee॰avaai॰ake॰ na likh paata, aur dhyaan rakhein vahaaain pe review hokar ye vishay-vastu banti hain. doosra, mujhe to yaad bhi naheen aap kaun se samay ki baat karte rahate hain ki aapne kab mujhe aaina dikhaaya tha. teesara, mainne kab kaha ki main maan gaya hooain ki jo link mainne diya hai vo hindi pe laagoo naheen hota? balki mainne to yeh kaha ki yeh har bhaasha ke jnyaaanakosh pe laagoo hoga. chautha, ab aapne poochha hi hai to bataata hooain ki aapke dvaara jode gaye link teesare point ka ulanghan karte hain, chooainki jo link aap dein rahein hain unki jaankaari aasaani se lekh ke andar gadya roop mein jodi ja sakti hai.
paaainchavaaain, ji haaain main "ab bhi apne puraane vichaar par kaayam" hooain. balki aapne angreji vikipeediya ke ye link dekar meri baat ko aur thos bana diya hai. bill Clinton lekh ek gud aartikl hai iske linkon ki sameeksha karke dekhein ki kya vahaaain aapki tarah drushteekon vaale link diye hain, naheen, balki vahaaain vibhinn samaachaarapatron ki website ke "Bill Clinton" khoj ke link diye gaeain hain. aap bhi shok se aise khoj rijlts daale mujhe koi aapatti naheen. parantu aapki aadat kya hai ki jab bhi midiya mein koi badi khabar chhapati hai aap usaka link yahaaain dete hain vo bhi bina nishpaksh rahein bina. aap hamesha apne drushteekon anusaar link dete hain. ab main aapka paitarn bata hi deta hooain:-
is sabke baad bhi main aapse anurodh karta hooain ki vikipeediya pe apne sanpaadanon mein sudhaar laaeain. agar aapko apne point of viyoo ko hi dikhaana hai to koi blog vagairah likhein vah aapke liye uttam rahega. ek tatasth jnyaaanakosh jo vaise hi mushkil se ji raha hai use barbaad na karein.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 13:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

aap bade-bade vikipeediynon se mera anurodh hai ki nimn baatein to aap logon ko yaad hona chaahiye tha:

hindi vikipeediya keval bhaarateeya vikipeediya na hokar sabhi hindi bhaashiyon ke liye hai, jo kisi bhi desh ka naagrik ho sakta hai. yahaaain par likhte bakht falaane desh ne yeh kiya aur falaane nein yeh -likhne se pehle sahi sandarbh dein. vikipeediya ko bhaarateeya raajaneeti ka akhaada na banaaya, apna vichaar aur siddhaant apne saath rakhein, yahaaain na dein aur keval gyaan ki drushti se upayukt saamagri hi likhein.
priyan brooyaat satyan brooyaat ma bruyaat satyamapriym.
arthaat priya likhe satya likhe, apriya-satya nalikhe yadi likhna hai to sarvamaanya sandarbh dein. jab tak sarvasammat naheen hoga prabandhak use lambit rakhein.bhavaani Gautam (vaarta) 14:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
bhavaani bhaai, aap dvaara likhi gayi subhaashit ka sahi roop yeh hona chaahiye : satyan brooyaat priyan brooyaat na brooyaat satyanpriyan. mere khayaal se yeh yahaaain laagoo naheen ho sakta kyonki 'gyaan' mein priya aur apriya dono aate hain. itne saare yuddh hue hain, bheeshan narasanhaar hue hain, mahaamaariyaaain aur praakrutik aapadaaeain huin hain - ve sab 'apriya' hi to hain. tamaam saare rog aise hain jinka naam lene maatr se ghruna aa sakti hai. to kya unke baare mein na likha jaaya? -- anunaad Singhvaarta 15:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
anunaad ji, mere kehne ka taatparya yeh hai kiseeko apriya lagana , jahaaain tak aisi baat aati hai to sahi sandarbh dena atyaavashyak hai. aur mainein jo subhaashit likhi sahi hai. sandhi vichhed kar dekhein- sanskrut mein ma ka arth hota hai na, satyamapriym=satyan+apriym. kitaab mein dekhein, apne hisaab se man marji likhkar krupaya sahi na kahein. aapne gayi, chaahiye, dono likhe ashuddh hain, hindi vyaakaran dekhein, sahi shavd to ye hai- gayi, chaahiye, donon. dhanyavaad.bhavaani Gautam (vaarta) 01:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
bhavaani bhaai, main iska sahi arth samajhta hooain. aapne bhi arth sahi likha hai. kintu mere khayaal se 'satyan brooyaat' ke baad 'priyan brooyaat' aata hai na ki pehle. mujhe lagbhag das varsh ki aayu se yahi yaad hai aur net par khojane par bhi yahi mila. kintu mera mukhya prashn yeh hai ki kya yeh is charcha mein kisi prakaar praasangik hai?-- anunaad Singhvaarta 03:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, jara dekhiye ki aap kahaaain se chale the aur bhaagte-bhaagte kahaaain aa gaye. tatasthata ki baat shuroo mein ek vaakya mein kah sakte the.
jo kadiyaaain maine jodi hain ve meri rachana naheen hain. aapko 'priym-priym' hi chaahiye to 'apriym' kadiyon ko hataane ke bajaay 'priym' kadiyaaain kyon naheen jod dete? aap kah rahe hain ki jo link main de raha hoon unki saamagri ko aasaani se us lekh mein joda ja sakta tha. agar itna hi aasaan hai to aapne kyon naheen jod diya? mujhe to yeh bahut bada kaam lag raha hai. krupaya yeh bhi bataaiye ki kahaaain likha hai ki yadi kisi maamale mein kisi bhaasha ki viki mein koi spasht neeti/dishaanirdesh naheen hain to angreji viki ka anusaran kiya jaayega?-- anunaad Singhvaarta 15:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, krupaya is baat par bhi saaf-saaf likhein ki samaachaar patron ke samaachaaron ki kadiyaaain 'baahari kadiyaaain' ke andar dena mana hai ya inhein dena achha hai? krupaya is savaal ko tathastata ke saath bina ghaalamel kiye uttar dein. -- anunaad Singhvaarta 03:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
sarvapratham, agar aap gadya naheen likh sakte to ismein meri galati naheen hai. doosra, hindi vikipeediya ki saamagri ka ek bahut bada bhaag angreji vikipeediya se aaya hai, chaahe ve badi sankhya mein lekh hon, saaainche, sahaayata prushth, pariyojana prushth, meediyaaviki prushth, tools, anya gaijets, aadi, isi prakaar yahaaain ki adhiktar niti-dishaanirdesh jaise prushth hataane ke maapdand, vishay ullekhaneeyata dishaanirdesh, lekh likhne ki shaili, nirvaachit vishyavastu maapdand, aadi ya to angreji vikipeediya se seedhe taur pe liye gaye hain ya vahaaain se prerit hain. to isi prakaar kisi vivaadaaspad vruttaant ke liye bhi angreji ko hi sandarbhit kiya jaata hai. ismein koi nai baat naheen hai. aapke prashn ka uttar pratibandhaatmak haaain hai. aap lekh mein samaachaarapatron ke link dein sakte hain, parantu ve is prakaar na chayanit kiye jaaeain ki jab bhi koi badi nakaaraatmak (ya sakaaraatmak bhi) khabar samaachaarapatron mein chhape to aap uske link yahaaain dein. jaise aapke dvaara hi udahaaran ke taur pe diye angreji viki ke bill Clinton lekh mein bajaay chayanit khabaron ke vibhinn pratishthit samaachaar website mein "Bill Clinton" ke khoj parinaam ke link diye hue hai; vaise hi aap bhi aise link dein sakte hain. iske saath hi aap kisi samaachaarapatr mein chhape editoriyl ke link bhi de sakte hain, parantu jeevit vyaktiyon ki jeevaniyon mein aise link dete samay khaas dhyaan rakhein ki aap vikimeediya ke rijaulyooshan ka paalan kar rahein hain.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 05:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, mere prashn bahut hi spasht the. aapne fir seedha uttar dene ke bajaay ghuma diya hai. ye 'pratibandhaatmak haaain' kya hai aur kahaaain likha hai ki koi badi nakaaraatmak (ya sakaaraatmak bhi) khabar samaachaarapatron mein chhape to aap uske link yahaaain naheen' de sakte. kya aap chaahate hain ki link ko baasi karke diya jaaya, turant naheen ya kuchh aur? krupaya is sambandh mein koi likhit neeti ka ullekh karein. (kisi ke dimaag mein koi bhram hai vah neeti naheen ban jaati!)
aap angreji ko sandarbh maanate hain main naheen maanata. kaheen kuchh likhit nirdesh ho to bataaiye. kitni vichitr baat hai ki aap kuchh saamagri hata rahe hain, logon ko niyam padha rahe hain lekin ve niyam kisi kitaab mein hi naheen hain!!!-- anunaad Singhvaarta 11:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
bill mahodaya, mere anuttarit prashn aapke darshan ke liye laalaayit hain aur aap hain ki idhar munh hi naheen fer rahe hain. palaayan se mukti naheen mil sakti. -- anunaad Singhvaarta 03:41, 15 June 2012 (UTC)